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  • #31
    I have to agree with Arum, the card stunk. It was a lot closer than the cards suggested. I think a trilogy must happen.

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    • #32
      I can see why some think it was closer than the cards or even a draw, as there were at least 2 rounds where I thought Catterall clearly won on clean punches landed, but I could easily see others giving to Taylor because Catterall was particularly negative in those low scoring rounds. But aggression doesn't win rounds. Effective aggression can do, in close rounds where you cannot split them for clean effective punches, but for the most part Taylor's aggression was woefully ineffective, Catterall's defense was far superior in terms of weighing a round.
      Also, if you don't even score rounds and just give an overall subjective opinion based on who kinda overall won the fight, then i could see calls of a draw. Only problem is that's not how fights are scored.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BritJimbo View Post
        I was rooting for Catteral, but 9-3 is ridiculous. A draw would have been ok.
        I do think Jack won but I also feel this was a blatant case of the previous fight being scored so badly that they had already decided that this time, Catterall would win.

        I remember a similar tihng happened with Pacquiao - he won a decision many thought he shouldn't have and then next fight when people thought he won - they made him lose that one on decision. Just so obviously done on purpose

        Interesting too that Taylor landed 102 power punches to Catterall's 88. Taylor is hardly finished like some fools on this forum were claiming.​..

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        • #34
          I had Catterall by 2 rounds then watched again and scored a draw. Very close fight Catterall getting given rounds for more eye-catching work but Taylor forcing the fight, coming forward and engaging he would have won those rounds in Vegas.

          Catterall doesn't beat any of the elite, Josh Taylor 3/4 years ago with more head movement and angles also beats him handily. But a 3rd fight is a must and it needs to be next. Massive purses for both at say Edinburgh Castle, bring in neutral judges. If Catterall takes another fight before the Trilogy Taylor declines too much. If its next I think Taylor will take it. Catterall is a much better Boxer than Taylor or most of us thought with a very awkward style. The top of the Division is too strong for him though so make some paper with a Trilogy next.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

            You're completely twisted in the head. Especially when you see the psychotic corruption going on in the US. It's never ending there. You couldn't find a handful of robberies in the UK. I could give you literally hundreds over the last 10 years alone. Forget history.

            Scotland is in the UK you moron. What are you talking about? The last fight took place in Scotland where Catterall dominated and got jibbed by Bob's setup just like he has at home.

            Catterall clearly won. Anyone thinking otherwise should refrain from scoring because you simply can't do it.
            I do t need a geography lesson from your drumb arse bro. The Scotland and Northern Ireland rivalry has been around for ages you F-in moron. While Ireland is also part of the UK a-whole and they get along so well with Britain you fool. The fight had its moments for both fighters. 9-3 is F-in crazy. Get your eyes checked you F-in moron and while you’re at it, take a class on reading comprehension.

            Bob should start a boycott of foreign fighters going across the pond to constantly get ripped off. No argument if Jack was given a close decision, but not 9-3 dumb arse.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Phase III View Post
              Any American fighter going to UK to fight is crazy. The judging there is corrupt and a disgrace like Arum said. Taylor is from Scotland considered a rival of England. So the corruption happens when any fighter not from the UK fights there, and It’s about time somebody stood up to the scam that takes place there. Foreign fighters must win by KO or TKO, otherwise it’s an automatic win for the local fighters. For women fighters it’s even worse.

              Recently Mikaela Mayer got jobbed against Natasha Jonas. But there is a pattern of obvious corruption there and that he BBoBC hasn’t done a dam thing about it. American fighters should boycott ever fighting there. Kudos to Bob Arum for finally speaking the truth about the UK scam.
              Pot kettle much!

              Like Muuurica! Isn't one of the most corrupt places on earth in boxing or otherwise xD

              Most scored the first half 5-1 6-0 & Taylor managed no Usyk turnaround, just made the 2nd half more competitive.

              Boxing is corrupt, period.
              But not on this occasion.
              Last edited by Bob; 05-26-2024, 10:14 AM.

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              • #37
                Arum is a hypocrite. He agreed with the one judge who scored Fury vs Usyk for Fury, when Usyk very clearly won that fight. Seems like Bob scores fights based on whether he promotes one of the fighters, not on who lands the most clean, effective punches. Hypocrite.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Phase III View Post
                  Any American fighter going to UK to fight is crazy. The judging there is corrupt and a disgrace like Arum said. Taylor is from Scotland considered a rival of England. So the corruption happens when any fighter not from the UK fights there, and It’s about time somebody stood up to the scam that takes place there. Foreign fighters must win by KO or TKO, otherwise it’s an automatic win for the local fighters. For women fighters it’s even worse.

                  Recently Mikaela Mayer got jobbed against Natasha Jonas. But there is a pattern of obvious corruption there and that he BBoBC hasn’t done a dam thing about it. American fighters should boycott ever fighting there. Kudos to Bob Arum for finally speaking the truth about the UK scam.
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                  While what you say is true, I will remind you that the US is the most corrupt Western nation on the planet. But specifically on boxing,
                  - Felix Sturm from Germany fought Oscar in 2004 in the US and got robbed.
                  - Sergio Martinez from Argentina was robbed twice in the US against Cintron and Paul Williams.
                  - Lennox Lewis got robbed in 1999 bs Holyfield.
                  - GGG got robbed vs Canelo in the 1st fight. Canelo fights mostly in the US and is basically American.

                  These are just a few off the top of my head but I’m pretty sure there is more.
                  As for the scumbag anus of a pig that is Bob Arum, he is a low life POS. All of his fighters have tried to leave him or left him - Oscar, Floyd, Cotto, Mikey Garcia, Crawford and even PAC. Why? He is a two-faced conniving MoFo like all his cousins.

                  Heck! I wouldn’t be surprised if he was behind the Bradley robbery vs PAC 1 just so he could make more money in the rematches.




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                  • #39

                    Originally posted by Phase III View Post
                    ​Any American fighter going to UK to fight is crazy. The judging there is corrupt and a disgrace like Arum said. Taylor is from Scotland considered a rival of England. So the corruption happens when any fighter not from the UK fights there, and It’s about time somebody stood up to the scam that takes place there. Foreign fighters must win by KO or TKO, otherwise it’s an automatic win for the local fighters. For women fighters it’s even worse.

                    Recently Mikaela Mayer got jobbed against Natasha Jonas. But there is a pattern of obvious corruption there and that he BBoBC hasn’t done a dam thing about it. American fighters should boycott ever fighting there. Kudos to Bob Arum for finally speaking the truth about the UK scam.​
                    Originally posted by Phase III View Post
                    American fighters should boycott ever fighting there.
                    British fans are truly devastated that they won't have the honor of watching an American boxer. How will they sleep at night.

                    You're a ****ing joke.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Phase III View Post

                      I do t need a geography lesson from your drumb arse bro. The Scotland and Northern Ireland rivalry has been around for ages you F-in moron. While Ireland is also part of the UK a-whole and they get along so well with Britain you fool. The fight had its moments for both fighters. 9-3 is F-in crazy. Get your eyes checked you F-in moron and while you’re at it, take a class on reading comprehension.

                      Bob should start a boycott of foreign fighters going across the pond to constantly get ripped off. No argument if Jack was given a close decision, but not 9-3 dumb arse.
                      You said the corruption happens whenever someone who is foreign and not from the UK fights there. Scotland, alongside England, Wales and Northern Ireland ARE the UK. Idiot. Ireland is NOT a part of the UK. This is how ****** you are. Why you're talking about the Northern Irish and Scotland rivalry i don't know as Catterall is English you melon.

                      Barboza vs McComb.
                      Estrada vs Gonzales twice.
                      Martinez vs Carmona and Cordova.
                      Hitchins vs Lemos.
                      Ford vs Kholmatov.
                      Charlo vs Castano.
                      McCasskill vs Ryan.
                      Fury vs Wilder 1.
                      Canelo vs Golovkin twice.
                      Canelo vs Lara.
                      Ramirez vs Postal.
                      Navarrete vs Conceicao.
                      Valdez vs Conceicao.
                      Rolly vs Barroso.
                      Cruz vs Cabrera.
                      Stevenson vs De Los Santos.
                      Haney vs Lomachenko.
                      Teo vs Ortiz and Martin.
                      Munguia vs Chenko.
                      Prograis vs Zorilla.
                      Lewis vs Holyfield 1.
                      Bradley vs Pacquiao.
                      Martinez vs Cintron.
                      Eastman vs Joppy.

                      Let me see you come close to matching this tiny list of robberies that have happened in the US? This isn't even 1% of all the robberies. But you say we have a problem. Prove it. Give me a list?

                      As for Catterall being given a clear decision. Guess what, he did beat Taylor clearly. You just can't score for shlt like too many people can't.

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