Was Devin Haney weight cheating?

[_Rexy_]

Ah ok I shoulda watched the clip first slaps myself in the back of the head, onus is on the commission now if they have a rule they got to have a penalty for breaking it.

Yeah, Cali comission only allows for 15% rehydration (which is still fking massive) and Devin came in at like 19%

So Regis might get his belt back, and the fight changed to NC.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Why don't we start calling guys. long arm bullies, big punch bullys, how about high altitude trained bullies, weight bully in boxing is a fans backhander for being disciplined and highly professional, always comes across to me as a losers excuse.

Because they're weight classes, not height classes or arm classes. It's sanctioned cheating. Period. The point of the weight classes was so you would fight someone who weighed what you did. That's why weigh ins used to be same day. How do you think this stuff with moving the weigh in time happened? Haney is notorious for having extremely early weigh ins built in to give himself more rehydration time. If it were fair, nobody would complain about rehydration clauses, and fighters would still weigh roughly the same. Go back and look at Haney's fight day weights and you'll see a consistent pattern of him significantly outweighing his opponents. When he weighed in 25 pounds more than his opponents at 135, that's the same 18% weight increase that Usyk faced vs Fury that everyone is so impressed with. If you don't think that's significant, we have nothing more to discuss.

[Roadblock]

Because they're weight classes, not height classes or arm classes. It's sanctioned cheating. Period. The point of the weight classes was so you would fight someone who weighed what you did. That's why weigh ins used to be same day. How do you think this stuff with moving the weigh in time happened? Haney is notorious for having extremely early weigh ins built in to give himself more rehydration time. If it were fair, nobody would complain about rehydration clauses, and fighters would still weigh roughly the same. Go back and look at Haney's fight day weights and you'll see a consistent pattern of him significantly outweighing his opponents. When he weighed in 25 pounds more than his opponents at 135, that's the same 18% weight increase that Usyk faced vs Fury that everyone is so impressed with. If you don't think that's significant, we have nothing more to discuss.

If there is no limit on rehydration its legal to come in whatever weight you like, as I said if its inside the rules its ok, outside the rules that's another matter, look at little guys in a division fighting big guys in the same division, there is large weight discrepancy on fightnight, there is no way around it other than weigh them right before the fight and they must be within the limits of the weightclass, but with an official weighin 30hrs before the fight and no rehydration limit is what it is.

Same day weighins did not mean they weighed the same fight night, these weighins were in the morning with 12 hrs or more to fight time, the reason they changed it is because fighters were fighting dehydrated adding to the risk of brain damage so they made it 30hrs to fully hydrate, fighters still took advantage of drying out and rehydrating with same day weighins.

[brettWall]

The size difference in the Prograis/Haney fight was apparent. Regis fans or anti-Haneys banked on so-called Regis' "power" to beat Haney, but this time his opponent was bigger. He was being punched like rag-doll in that fight.

Not so apparent, but if you think about where Haney came from, which is 135, then Prograis was supposed to be the bigger guy in the fight. That's how it becomes apparent, if that makes sense.

[eco1]

Yeah, Cali comission only allows for 15% rehydration (which is still fking massive) and Devin came in at like 19%

So Regis might get his belt back, and the fight changed to NC.

Regis doesn't have the "marketing power" to do so.

[The Big Dunn]

If you make weight at the weigh in, you are fine.

If you come over, you are not.

If someone has the physical ability to make 135 and then rehydrates up 14+ lbs, don’t cry about it.

That is god given ability, unless you use PED’s like Ryan.

[Smash]

i dont think its unfair to have guys fighting guys who are are around their weight, some guys end up being 2 weight classes and more bigger in the ring, why not just allow LW's to fight WW's etc

then u get A siders who get around this with clauses making it an unfair matchup in the end, its a terrible system

[eco1]

If you make weight at the weigh in, you are fine.

If you come over, you are not.

If someone has the physical ability to make 135 and then rehydrates up 14+ lbs, don’t cry about it.

That is god given ability, unless you use PED’s like Ryan.

Unless the rules state a % that he did not care to abide to.

[The Big Dunn]

Unless the rules state a % that he did not care to abide to.

That doesn’t make Haney a weight cheat or whatever ridiculous thing certain posters label it.

You make weight, you make weight. Period.

[smith3536]

Except this is coming up because Devin broke the California Commission rules.

Yeah, Cali comission only allows for 15% rehydration (which is still fking massive) and Devin came in at like 19%

So Regis might get his belt back, and the fight changed to NC.

The regulations say 15% and he exceeded it, so he broke the rule.