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  • #21
    Originally posted by PittyPat View Post

    Not bashing your post, but I heavily question the rationale of – specifically – Ibragimov, John Ruiz, Peter, Stiverne, Maskaev, Valuev, and Chagaev as HWs that would inflict a loss on ATGs/HOFs like Louis, Liston, Ali, Frazier, prime Foreman, or late-80s Tyson. They weren't that good.
    Again, Rahman knocked out Lennox Lewis. McCall knocked out Lennox Lewis. Douglas knocked out Tyson. Brewster knocked out Klitschko. Ruiz knocked out Joshua. Ali lost to Neon Leon Spinks.

    At the top level anybody can lose on any night. The guys you mentioned would all be underdogs but if you face enough top level heavyweights in a row you're bound to lose to one of them, and it might not be one you'd expect. John Ruiz was awkward as hell, Valuev ****** but you can't teach somebody to be 7 feet tall, Chagaev was nothing special but he was a tricky southpaw and that's uncommon at heavyweight.
    Last edited by famicommander; 05-23-2024, 12:24 PM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by famicommander View Post
      Again, Rahman knocked out Lennox Lewis. McCall knocked out Lennox Lewis. Douglas knocked out Tyson. Brewster knocked out Klitschko. Ruiz knocked out Joshua. Ali lost to Neon Leon Spinks.
      Those guys in bold I didn't disagree with. I fully agree with you on their upset-making capabilities.

      But with the ones I highlighted (mainly the non-spectacular eastern Euros from about 15yrs ago), I just don't see them being the ones to upset someone as technically sound as Usyk, or someone as dazzling as Ali, or someone as ferocious as Tyson. Actually, I'd favour them more to upset Fury because he's always performed so inconsistently and only seems to rise to the level of his opponent.

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