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  • Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post

    Champion4ever
    "Fury wants a rematch and I wonder why?"
    You didn't wonder why Fury gave Wilder a rematch after that TKO Lost
    You had no problem with Fury giving Wilder a rematch even tho Wilder got knocked out in the 3rd fight....
    Usyk beat Fury in a close fight by one point
    Soooo why can't Usyk give him a rematch?
    It's because the Fury era is over. It's done. He is washed up now. He can no longer move his head like he used to and his punch resistance is no longer there. It's obvious that he has declined.

    Perhaps, that 'Wilder/Fury trilogy" took more out of him than we had originally thought. Most boxing fans considers this as his second consecutive loss.

    Many believed he lost that fight with Francis Ngannou too but was awarded the decision anyhow. I strongly believe that Usyk will knock him out in their rematch.

    Also, once again most boxing fans believed that he should have been TKOd in that 9th round of their fight anyway. Except, the referee did not stop the fight when he was supposed to because he wanted Tyson Fury to win.
    Last edited by champion4ever; 05-21-2024, 02:37 PM.

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    • These two may be so equally matched, they could fight 10 times and share 5 wins a piece against each other. Although Usyk won, it's hard to say it was dominant. Especially if we go by the cards where he only won due to the knockdown point.

      Usyk was dominant early, only for Fury to get in a groove and take the middle. Usyk made adjustments, bust Fury's nose and all that contribued to Fury losing the remaining of the fight with the knockdown really capping things off in the swing back in Usyk's direction. Granted he finished pretty good considering how he looked at the end of the 9th.

      Again, these guys can probably go back and forth where either wins by their neck in as many fights as they could have with each other. Though that is all fantasy talk at this point. In my opinion, Usyk may have just gave the best performance of his career and last best performance considering time is not on his side. He's going to be 38 and while Fury is not necessarily a young buck anymore, he could have enough in his gas tank to stay busy more so than Usyk can on aging legs. I think from here forward Fury wins and would win consecutively.

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      • Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

        Kind of like the way he crucified Garcia for pissing dirty
        Agendas are bad way to live life
        He's the idiot. He knew damn well that he signed up for VADA testing and yet he still chose to piss hot regardless; Not once but twice. My question is why? Who does that type of ****** shit anyway?

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        • Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
          These two may be so equally matched, they could fight 10 times and share 5 wins a piece against each other. Although Usyk won, it's hard to say it was dominant. Especially if we go by the cards where he only won due to the knockdown point.

          Usyk was dominant early, only for Fury to get in a groove and take the middle. Usyk made adjustments, bust Fury's nose and all that contribued to Fury losing the remaining of the fight with the knockdown really capping things off in the swing back in Usyk's direction. Granted he finished pretty good considering how he looked at the end of the 9th.

          Again, these guys can probably go back and forth where either wins by their neck in as many fights as they could have with each other. Though that is all fantasy talk at this point. In my opinion, Usyk may have just gave the best performance of his career and last best performance considering time is not on his side. He's going to be 38 and while Fury is not necessarily a young buck anymore, he could have enough in his gas tank to stay busy more so than Usyk can on aging legs. I think from here forward Fury wins and would win consecutively.
          Fury was damn near knocked out. That's why many boxing fans are calling it a dominating performance. No other fighter has ever been able to batter Tyson Fury all across the ring like that; Only for the exception of Oleksandr Usyk.

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          • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

            It's because the Fury era is over. It's done. He is washed up now. He can no longer move his head like he used to and his punch resistance is no longer there. It's obvious that he has declined.

            Perhaps, that 'Wilder/Fury trilogy" took more out of him than we had originally thought. Most boxing fans considers this as his second consecutive loss.

            Many believed he lost that fight with Francis Ngannou too but was awarded the decision anyhow. I strongly believe that Usyk will knock him out in their rematch.

            Also, once again most boxing fans believed that he should have been TKOd in that 9th round of their fight anyway. Except, the referee did not stop the fight when he was supposed to because he wanted Tyson Fury to win.
            You got some strange "Biased Boxing opinions" buddy and based on those I guess Deontay Wilder era should be over also
            But yet he's still fighting
            FYI
            Ngannou only knocked Fury down but Fury never lost that fight
            Usyk had Fury hurt in the 9th round but it's an undisputed fight soo most ppl think the Ref made the right call based on how Fury still recovered and won 1 or 2 of the remaining rounds
            I think Usyk deserved the win but Fury needs to get his rematch he only has one lost in a close fight
            Wilder has 3 losses and still has Zhang and AJ Fights to look foward too
            Soo why can't Tyson Fury?

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            • Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

              He's the idiot. He knew damn well that he signed up for VADA testing and yet he still chose to piss hot regardless; Not once but twice. My question is why? Who does that type of ****** shit anyway?
              Happens every other fughin weekend
              My question to you is why the big brouhaha when it happen every second weekend ???
              Sounds like you either have money invested or agenda driven ???

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              • Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                I think this your hindsight speaking plunger, at the time a lot of people thought Usyk was competitively done (see fight thread/social media). Both Fury and Joshua didn't put the foot down when they had Usyk hurt (Fury more than Joshua). You describe Usyk as having God-mode, where was it against Breidis? There are no Gods in boxing, only men, I look forward to the rematch.
                there are gears that other fighters cannot get to and what we saw Saturday night was usyk from the 8th round leave fury in his wake and get battered from ring post to ring post…..that is god mode weebler.
                A gift that not many fighters posses in there arsenal.
                Yes and I will quite easily have a private bet with you that usyk beats him even easier next time if they fight
                If social media broadcasters said usyk is done then I’m afraid your listening to wrong people weebler…….not at one time did I think usyk was done after 6 rounds and if your think that then you have not been watching usyk properly because usyk always adjusts and comes back stronger, you must be naive to think usyk was competitively done after fury took 3 rounds back
                Last edited by The plunger man; 05-21-2024, 03:29 PM.

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                • Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post

                  You got some strange "Biased Boxing opinions" buddy and based on those I guess Deontay Wilder era should be over also
                  But yet he's still fighting
                  FYI
                  Ngannou only knocked Fury down but Fury never lost that fight
                  Usyk had Fury hurt in the 9th round but it's an undisputed fight soo most ppl think the Ref made the right call based on how Fury still recovered and won 1 or 2 of the remaining rounds
                  I think Usyk deserved the win but Fury needs to get his rematch he only has one lost in a close fight
                  Wilder has 3 losses and still has Zhang and AJ Fights to look foward too
                  Soo why can't Tyson Fury?
                  I agree. Wilder is broken. He no longer has the fighting spirit in him no more. It's sad to see him just to show up for a pay day. As far as Fury is concerned; He's free to do whatever he wants.

                  I do know that most boxing fans like myself would be more than happy to see a rematch between the two. It's because their first fight was such a hotly contested, highly entertaining and crowd-pleasing fight.

                  However, I don't expect Fury to improve much against Usyk because Oleksandr is not only the better fighter but the more fundamentally sound and scientific of the two also. He knows how to make adjustments in the middle of a fight.

                  Which is why I thought fighting Usyk from a distance was a tactical mistake.
                  Last edited by champion4ever; 05-21-2024, 03:27 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                    Happens every other fughin weekend
                    My question to you is why the big brouhaha when it happen every second weekend ???
                    Sounds like you either have money invested or agenda driven
                    ???
                    I told you before and now I am going to tell you why again. It's because Ryan was allowed to compete inside of a prizefighting ring with all that shit in his system.

                    I agree. There probably are a bevy of fighters who were hopped up on drugs too who were allowed to compete inside of a boxing ring.

                    However, they were smart enough to avoid detection by not signing up to a voluntary anti-doping agency for random dope testing like Ryan Garcia's ****** fucking dumb ass did

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                    • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

                      7 of the 21 media scores listed in another thread had the fight decided by a point (6-6 Usyk & 7-5 Fury). The most popular score is 7-5 Usyk which I'd suggest is still close even with the KD.

                      Only 4 of these 21 media scores had Usyk winning 3/4's of the fight like you had it.

                      The Guardin 116-111 Usyk
                      The Sporting News 114-113 Usyk
                      ESPN 115-112 Usyk
                      Bad Left Hook 116-111 Usyk
                      Fight Freaks 115-112 Usyk
                      Dan Rafael 115-112 Usyk
                      Yahoo Sports 114-113 Usyk
                      Sun Sports 114-113 Usyk
                      MMA Fighting 114-113 Usyk
                      MMA Mania 115-113 Usyk
                      Chris Mannix 115-112 Usyk
                      Draft Kings 117-110 Usyk
                      Sporting News 114-113 Usyk
                      World boxing news 116-111 Usyk
                      Independent Sport- 115-112 Usyk
                      Usa Today 114-113 Usyk
                      Fightsatw 115-112 Usyk
                      Mike Coppinger 115-112 Usyk
                      Kevin Iole 115-112 Usyk
                      Al Bernstein 115-112 Usyk
                      Sports Illustrated 115-112 Usyk
                      CBS Sports- 114-113 Fury​
                      I had Usyk by a point. Fury won t of the first 7 and only 1 of the final 5. 6-6. Knockdown edged it for Usyk.
                      Eff Pandas Eff Pandas likes this.

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