Originally posted by diplo
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Should have been a ref stoppage in round 9
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Re the slow count, it didnt matter, because the KD happened with 10 sec. left, so the round would have ended anyway w/out an opportunity to KO Fury,
Also, and this is weird, the the count was slow -- but it wasnt the ref who was counting. There was a voice on the PA counting -- and it stopped at 4 for some reason, and then resumed counting from 5. Maybe the voice was responding to something the ref was signaling?
And again I say, if the ref had stopped the fight and TKO'd Fury, there would be all kinds of controversy, the Fury fanboys would be insufferable. It was a judgment call, the ref COULD HAVE stopped it.... but Im very glad he didnt. Let the fighters decide it. Luckily 2/3 of the refs got it right.
All in all, I think the ref did a good job.Last edited by sensfulviolence; 05-21-2024, 12:50 PM.
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Originally posted by sensfulviolence View PostRe the slow count, it didnt matter, because the KD happened with 10 sec. left, so the round would have ended anyway w/out an opportunity to KO Fury,
Also, and this is weird, the the count was slow -- but it wasnt the ref who was counting. There was a voice on the PA counting -- and it stopped at 4 for some reason, and then resumed counting from 5. Maybe the voice was responding to something the ref was signaling?
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Ehhh, it's arguable, but I'll say no. I believe the official rules say that you're not allowed to use the ropes to keep yourself upright. So in theory, the first time Fury bounced off the ropes, he should have been ruled knocked down and given a standing 8.
The ref definitely stopped Usyk from throwing punches at the end, and Usyk thought it was declared a KO win. He pulled his punches. It was inconsistent refereeing. Weird time to rule a knockdown.
I definitely think Fury benefited from this interaction. A ruled KD is the best he could have hoped for. Ref saved him from further beating with that late KD ruling, while half of other refs would have ruled a KO and jumped in.Gideon lock likes this.
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Originally posted by kafkod View Post
Have to agree with this. It looked like the ref did his best to ignore the falling into the ropes rule to avoid giving Usyk a 10-8 round and only applied it when Fury was helpless and about to be punched off the ropes and onto the canvas.
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Originally posted by j0zef View PostEhhh, it's arguable, but I'll say no. I believe the official rules say that you're not allowed to use the ropes to keep yourself upright. So in theory, the first time Fury bounced off the ropes, he should have been ruled knocked down and given a standing 8.
The ref definitely stopped Usyk from throwing punches at the end, and Usyk thought it was declared a KO win. He pulled his punches. It was inconsistent refereeing. Weird time to rule a knockdown.
I definitely think Fury benefited from this interaction. A ruled KD is the best he could have hoped for. Ref saved him from further beating with that late KD ruling, while half of other refs would have ruled a KO and jumped in.
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Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
Fury was clearly held up by the ropes, which is technically a knockdown. Therefore, what the ref issued was a mandatory eight count (different from a standing eight count). Mandatory eight counts are a requirement when a fighter is knocked down. Hopes this clears up some confusion. Here’s the Wikipedia page on this issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_eight_countCubanGuyNYC likes this.
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Originally posted by 4truth View Post
Seemed like a lack of respect for Usyk's power. Against Wilder, he went down quick when things got rough.
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Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
Wilder never got Fury RIGHT on the button like that. He dropped him with temple shots and a forehead shot (which is testament to Wilder’s power) but Usyk popped Fury right on that perfect spot, and Fury didn’t see it coming
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Originally posted by 4truth View Post
There were a couple of knockdowns where things had gotten a little chaotic and I felt Fury chose to take an 8 count to regroup rather that risk Wilder landing something debilitating in the confusion. Maybe this is just an example of a tall clumsy guy falling down but it looked calculated to me. That wasn't a punch that I would normally expect to put Fury down.
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