Thoughts from a Fury fan the morning after...

[W1LL]

Fighting in the desert on the other side of the world gives up a massive advantage. If this fight was at Old Trafford in Manchester the place would have been a pro-Fury bearpit. The fans make a massive difference in these big fights. Arab oil money has ripped the soul out of boxing in this regard. You cannot deny that there are benefits from having a partisan home crowd. The fans can drive a fighter on to victory in a fight of this magnitude.

I scored the fight as follows:

• Round 1 to Usyk, Fury slow to get started
• Round 2, 3 to Fury, Fury's good body shots got a reaction
• Round 4, 5, and 6 close could have gone either way but I gave 2 to Fury and 1 to Usyk
• 4-2 Fury after 6, can understand someone seeing it differently, the momentum was with Fury
• Round 7 to Usyk, Usyk went up a gear, triggered by Fury showboating and lax defence
• Round 8 to Usyk, Fury eased off and the nose damage started to affect him
• Round 9 to Usyk 10-8, lol @ people saying it should have been stopped
• Round 10 and 11 to Usyk, 10 a recovery round for Fury, 11 better but Usyk still won it
• Round 12 to Fury, could be another pick’em round though

Final score 7-5 to Usyk with 1 KD. 115-112 to Usyk.

To think that the judges had the "knockdown" winning it for Usyk is mad. If that "knockdown" hadn't happened it would have been a Draw. Quite mad really, I felt Usyk won it down the stretch. Threw more, held centre, threw more, tried to jump on Fury when he did have success.

Fury lost no doubt about it. A lot of Tyson’s shortcomings last night, you have to consider, was he bad or was Usyk just that good? Can’t take away from what Usyk achieved last night, he achieved Greatness. If you put Usyk in the top 10 Heavies of all time now, he would be by far the most decorated in the top 10. Olympic Gold. Undisputed, Lineal champion in two divisions, one being the marquee division of Boxing, is an outstanding achievement. Ranks far, far higher than fighters like Mayweather, Pacquaio etc cherry-picking and weight-draining opponents to win paper titles at multiple weights. Usyk is a true champion and he has cleared out two divisions with some serious opposition standing in the opposite corner. Conquering champion after champion. Nothing but respect for Usyk and his team.

I don’t get the tactics in Fury’s corner. I don’t get why there wasn’t more urgency as the fight ebbed and flowed. The body shots were troubling Usyk but this was not expressed in the corner enough. Too calm, no change in advice when the fight started to slip away, telling Tyson he was up on the cards throughout. Sugar Hill Steward too laid-back for me. John Fury on the ring apron telling Tyson he was winning in the 11^th and 12^th. Daft.

Virgil Hunter? Bo-Mac? Does Eddy Reynoso speak English?

Between the Ngannou fight and last night, there are clear signs of Fury’s physical decline. Cannot move like he used to, footwork, pivots and explosiveness seem to have abandoned him. No more bouncing on toes early doors, flat-footed before the halfway stage. Just not the same, this isn’t an excuse, if you know what you’re watching you must see it. Also seems like his defensive reflexes just aren’t what they were. Standing tall, leaving his head straight on not protecting his chin. One of Fury’s best attributes was always his elusivity, watching him slip and evade shots. Some of his flashier finishes have been catching and countering. This elusiveness has eluded him for a few fights now, there to be hit now.

If the rematch happens I don’t know what this version of Fury with this team behind him does differently. Will the rematch be a more conclusive repeat? Would a new trainer make a difference? Is Fury shot?

If the rematch does happen, Fury should say “Fook it!” and go all-in. 270-275 lb. High-guard, hold the centre, push Usyk to the ropes. Body body body. Hold him, lean on him, rough him up as much as possible. Absolutely no showboating. No John Fury. Go out on your shield, this version of Fury cannot win a boxing match against Usyk.

There will always be interest in AJ-Fury. Judging from both of their recent performances, I think the fight would be a lot closer now than it would have 3-4 years ago. AJ would have success against this version of Fury, and if he hurt him he very well could end the fight. He has the tools. Would be a grizzly end to see AJ brutalize a shot Fury, like.

Maybe Usyk is just that good though. Maybe it’s disrespectful to Usyk to say Tyson is on the decline and that’s why he lost. That isn’t the case, Usyk has always been Elite, and he showed it once more last night.

Props to the Rabbit. And commiserations to the Gypsy King. We are not Spartans. We are Celts and Gaels.

P.S. If I've wound any of you fookers up with my Fury posts in recent years, feel free to gloat in here lol. That goes for anyone but @RobbieBarrett. Can't stand that lad.

Peace. Respect to the Gypsy King. Respect to Usyk, King of Heavyweights. Last night was very fooking feel.

[Atypicalbrit]

I picked Usyk all the way through.

People are going to give Fury a lot of stick now and a lot of it is deserved.

But honestly, I don't think Fury embarrassed himself with the performance, it was high stakes chess for 8 rounds and it was fascinating to watch, Fury did some skilled work in there.

Usyk turned it around with a cracking shot in the 9th just when he needed it, because there were times I was getting nervous I'd done my stake. I've never seen Usyk getting repeatedly rocked with lead uppercuts and looking out of ideas like he did in the mid rounds.

Fury is what he is, he's very talented but he's poorly disciplined, frustrating outside the ring with his antics and at the end of the day the more professional guy won. Fury's lifestyle was always going to catch up with him and frankly I'm surprised it took this long.

Fury's had a good career though, and as I've said before deep down I think he's a decent guy, he just let's his demons win too many times.

Credit to Fury he played a solid part in making that a hell of a fight, I won't gloat over a guy who gave it his all because that's all I can ask of a fighter and I won't forget his good achievements in the ring either.

[Haka]

Fury is sloppy fighter, not able to 'keep it long' like in textbook style (like Bivol for ex.), he is going to get hit and feel that straight left hand to the chin. Usyk moves a lot better in this fight and he isn't that much smaller than Fury in terms of Heavyweights, 105 kg vs 120kg. Fury does not have the power to keep Usyk at bay, throws arms punches except when he decides to really sit on his punches. But when Fury is going to sit on his punches he is going to be a stationary target and Usyk will circle around and throw that hard left. Biggest problem that Fury has is his lack of power. Usyk is going to cook him.

Leaning on Usyk means his chin is going to get close to Usyk fists.

Called it from the getgo wasn't suprised by the outcome and how it played out but it was a great fight to watch.

[W1LL]

Called it from the getgo wasn't suprised by the outcome and how it played out but it was a great fight to watch.

You did call it, fair play to ya.

[hugh grant]

Fury looked better than usyk at points. But fight is 12 rounds. Fury had usyk hurt, complaining but didn't capitalise

[W1LL]

Fury looked better than usyk at points. But fight is 12 rounds. Fury had usyk hurt, complaining but didn't capitalise

Can't argue with any of that. But that's what people say Usyk does to his opponents. Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Didn't though in the end. Body shots and uppercuts successful but never capitalised on, nothing sustained.

[Richard]

Peace. Respect to the Gypsy King. Respect to Usyk, King of Heavyweights. Last night was very fooking feel.

Appreciate the honesty my friend. God bless. Looking forward to the rematch.

[deathofaclown]

It was a good fight with the right winner in the end.

I don't know how any Boxing fan couldn't enjoy it. I thought both fighters showed they're extremely talented. Fury was excellent in the early to middle rounds. Usyk pulled out the win when it was looking like the fight was getting away from him. It was probably the highest skill level heavyweight fight we've seen for some time. Both had their moments to show their abilities.

Without the 10-8 round I don't think anybody could be too mad at the draw. You can easily make a case for 6-6.

This is what happens when two great fighters meet, you get a winner and loser and both show their ability at times. That's how boxing should be. There's no shame in losing a fight like that.

It's a shame Bivol v Beterbiev isn't happening in 2 weeks, people would be very excited about that one after last night delivered a very good fight.

[Toffee]

Usyk had to come through a bit of fire, and that's got to be expected against guys of this size. Fury looked enormous in the early rounds.

W1LL, the point about Fury not being elusive any more is massive. He gets pinged regularly - and particularly by left hands. A novice in Ngannou couldn't miss when he threw the left, and a master like Usyk was able to load up the left in a way that he hardly ever does.

I disagree with your round by round, but agree with the close ones. There were a few that could go either way.

[hogey]

Fighting in the desert on the other side of the world gives up a massive advantage. If this fight was at Old Trafford in Manchester the place would have been a pro-Fury bearpit. The fans make a massive difference in these big fights. Arab oil money has ripped the soul out of boxing in this regard. You cannot deny that there are benefits from having a partisan home crowd. The fans can drive a fighter on to victory in a fight of this magnitude.

I scored the fight as follows:

• Round 1 to Usyk, Fury slow to get started
• Round 2, 3 to Fury, Fury's good body shots got a reaction
• Round 4, 5, and 6 close could have gone either way but I gave 2 to Fury and 1 to Usyk
• 4-2 Fury after 6, can understand someone seeing it differently, the momentum was with Fury
• Round 7 to Usyk, Usyk went up a gear, triggered by Fury showboating and lax defence
• Round 8 to Usyk, Fury eased off and the nose damage started to affect him
• Round 9 to Usyk 10-8, lol @ people saying it should have been stopped
• Round 10 and 11 to Usyk, 10 a recovery round for Fury, 11 better but Usyk still won it
• Round 12 to Fury, could be another pick’em round though

Final score 7-5 to Usyk with 1 KD. 115-112 to Usyk.

To think that the judges had the "knockdown" winning it for Usyk is mad. If that "knockdown" hadn't happened it would have been a Draw. Quite mad really, I felt Usyk won it down the stretch. Threw more, held centre, threw more, tried to jump on Fury when he did have success.

Fury lost no doubt about it. A lot of Tyson’s shortcomings last night, you have to consider, was he bad or was Usyk just that good? Can’t take away from what Usyk achieved last night, he achieved Greatness. If you put Usyk in the top 10 Heavies of all time now, he would be by far the most decorated in the top 10. Olympic Gold. Undisputed, Lineal champion in two divisions, one being the marquee division of Boxing, is an outstanding achievement. Ranks far, far higher than fighters like Mayweather, Pacquaio etc cherry-picking and weight-draining opponents to win paper titles at multiple weights. Usyk is a true champion and he has cleared out two divisions with some serious opposition standing in the opposite corner. Conquering champion after champion. Nothing but respect for Usyk and his team.

I don’t get the tactics in Fury’s corner. I don’t get why there wasn’t more urgency as the fight ebbed and flowed. The body shots were troubling Usyk but this was not expressed in the corner enough. Too calm, no change in advice when the fight started to slip away, telling Tyson he was up on the cards throughout. Sugar Hill Steward too laid-back for me. John Fury on the ring apron telling Tyson he was winning in the 11^th and 12^th. Daft.

Virgil Hunter? Bo-Mac? Does Eddy Reynoso speak English?

Between the Ngannou fight and last night, there are clear signs of Fury’s physical decline. Cannot move like he used to, footwork, pivots and explosiveness seem to have abandoned him. No more bouncing on toes early doors, flat-footed before the halfway stage. Just not the same, this isn’t an excuse, if you know what you’re watching you must see it. Also seems like his defensive reflexes just aren’t what they were. Standing tall, leaving his head straight on not protecting his chin. One of Fury’s best attributes was always his elusivity, watching him slip and evade shots. Some of his flashier finishes have been catching and countering. This elusiveness has eluded him for a few fights now, there to be hit now.

If the rematch happens I don’t know what this version of Fury with this team behind him does differently. Will the rematch be a more conclusive repeat? Would a new trainer make a difference? Is Fury shot?

If the rematch does happen, Fury should say “Fook it!” and go all-in. 270-275 lb. High-guard, hold the centre, push Usyk to the ropes. Body body body. Hold him, lean on him, rough him up as much as possible. Absolutely no showboating. No John Fury. Go out on your shield, this version of Fury cannot win a boxing match against Usyk.

There will always be interest in AJ-Fury. Judging from both of their recent performances, I think the fight would be a lot closer now than it would have 3-4 years ago. AJ would have success against this version of Fury, and if he hurt him he very well could end the fight. He has the tools. Would be a grizzly end to see AJ brutalize a shot Fury, like.

Maybe Usyk is just that good though. Maybe it’s disrespectful to Usyk to say Tyson is on the decline and that’s why he lost. That isn’t the case, Usyk has always been Elite, and he showed it once more last night.

Props to the Rabbit. And commiserations to the Gypsy King. We are not Spartans. We are Celts and Gaels.

P.S. If I've wound any of you fookers up with my Fury posts in recent years, feel free to gloat in here lol. That goes for anyone but @RobbieBarrett. Can't stand that lad.

Peace. Respect to the Gypsy King. Respect to Usyk, King of Heavyweights. Last night was very fooking feel.

Fair play to you mate, good truthful analysis.