John Fury - "You've won the fight"

[kafkod]

John Fury - "You've won the fight"




I would put it down to A side entitlement - the idea that all you need to do to win on the cards is be competitive.

Shades of "Brilliant AJ! Brilliant!" from Rob McCracken in AJ vs Usyk 1

Except that, even if every round had looked like the 9th, John Fury would still have been seeing Tyson winning the fight.

We saw what Big John uses his head for 3 days ago, and it isn't for objective thought. A guy like that is the last person you need in your corner during a big fight.

[diplo]

John Fury is a massive cÙnt. Not even sure Fury's fanboys can defend him

[Weebler I]

Wouldn't make any difference. He couldn't match usyk at that point. He might have tried being more agressive and would likely walk into something to put him down.

fury strategy for the whole fight was spot on - something similar to what bellew did, but neither could match usyk’s gears.

I don't know, Fury was more competitive than I expected after the 9th, he was landing heavy shots in the 12th (and taking some, granted), I didn't think he had that left. Who knows what more there was if he was told he needed a KO to win.

[diplo]

I don't know if Fury was 'exposed' in the way we usually talk about boxers. Fury was in a class of his own. He still is. Just isn't as good as Usyk pure and simple. Maybe that counts as being 'exposed' but not in my opinion. Still beats every single HW below him though.

[champion4ever]

Fury blew it. I've always said leading up to the build up of this fight; That Fury would have to make it a very physical fight in order to win and wear the smaller man down but he did not do that.

Yet he was still able to hurt Usyk in spurts but was too reluctant to turn it all the way up. Now we've seen Fury exposed when he is forced to fight on an even playing field.

He is very vulnerable and susceptible to knockdowns when he chooses to fight from the outside and off the back foot.

[Simurgh]

I don't know, Fury was more competitive than I expected after the 9th, he was landing heavy shots in the 12th (and taking some, granted), I didn't think he had that left. Who knows what more there was if he was told he needed a KO to win.

To me it was exactly the same pattern as the AJ 2. AJ tried hard in the 12th too (after the 10th round that usyk hurt him and totally outclassed), and usyk navigated it pretty easy. Pretty similar to this one. Usyk is a master in navigating fights. i dont think fury could have done anything better - he was already exhausted by trying to survive 9-11th.

[Simurgh]

Fury blew it. I've always said leading up to the build up of this fight; That Fury would have to make it a very physical fight in order to win and wear the smaller man down but he did not do that.

Yet he was still able to hurt Usyk in spurts but was too reluctant to turn it all the way up. Now we've seen Fury exposed when he is forced to fight on an even playing field.

He is very vulnerable and susceptible to knockdowns when he chooses to fight from the outside and off the back foot.

He turned it up as much as usyk allowed him to. Usyk switched the gear up from the 7th, and fury was not able to follow. similar to saying that bellew or chisora or aj should have turned it up the max. they couldnt, and d fury couldnt. Usyk simply has higher gears and doesn't fight the whole fight in the same gear.

That is what I feel people don't realise. Usyks ceiling is much higher, and when he goes there for a few rounds opponents fall apart.

[champion4ever]

He turned it up as much as usyk allowed him to. Usyk switched the gear up from the 7th, and fury was not able to follow. similar to saying that bellew or chisora or aj should have turned it up the max. they couldnt, and d fury couldnt. Usyk simply has higher gears and doesn't fight the whole fight in the same gear.

That is what I feel people don't realise. Usyks ceiling is much higher, and when he goes there for a few rounds opponents fall apart.

However, subsequent to the 9th round from the second half of round 10 and all the way through the championship rounds of 11 and 12; Usyk appeared to have punched himself out.

I personally believe that Usyk lost those rounds and the fight itself but won the decision. I just thought that Tyson Fury was beating Usyk to the punch all night by throwing and landing many more punches than Oleksandr Usyk.

[Simurgh]

However, subsequent to the 9th round from the second half of round 10 and all the way through the championship rounds of 11 and 12; Usyk appeared to have punched himself out.

I personally believe that Usyk lost those rounds and the fight itself but won the decision. I just thought that Tyson Fury was beating Usyk to the punch all night by throwing and landing many more punches than Oleksandr Usyk.

12 was close - so it could have gone for fury, although usyk was the one pressing it and I gave it to usyk. 10 and 11 very clear usyk rounds.

i don't think people realise fully what is so good about usyk - be goes up and down in gears as rounds go by. Aj might have won the 12th in their 2nd fight. i think it is because usyk adjusted and played it somewhat safe. Same for fury fight.

i think usyk navigation of fights is as perfect as it gets.

[Weebler I]

To me it was exactly the same pattern as the AJ 2. AJ tried hard in the 12th too (after the 10th round that usyk hurt him and totally outclassed), and usyk navigated it pretty easy. Pretty similar to this one. Usyk is a master in navigating fights. i dont think fury could have done anything better - he was already exhausted by trying to survive 9-11th.

Overall I think he could've pressed Usyk when he had him hurt, same for Joshua, both stood off when they did damage. Commentators were perplexed as to why Fury wasn't pressing Usyk once he had hurt him.

I'm not sure Fury trained for this particular style of fight. Did he really train to box Usyk on the backfoot? If not he can be better prepared for a rematch, to capitalise on what works/worked. That's if he keeps his head before then, he's likely to fall into depression imo. Rematch won't be in October that's for sure.