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  • #31
    Originally posted by pnut901 View Post

    I think that luck has a great deal to do with it. Sometimes everything that can go wrong just does and sometimes it's the opposite. We try to make sense of it , to find some order , or reason to it but life is just a series of random events. That's a hard thing for many to accept , our minds are wired to look for reasons and order.
    Haha, well my "theorized" post was definitely not based on luck, but if you want to say, genetics. I believe it has to do with the liquid inside your skull that acts as a cushion for your brain. When you get hit (in any type of way) in the head, your brain is jolted around with the liquid helping to cushion it from slamming into the skull. Granted these movements of slamming into the skull are probably millimeter distances of movement. The bleeding of the brain happens when there is not enough liquid and the brain is constantly ****ing into the skull due to the lack of liquid and cushion.

    So in saying that, I believe fighters who are born where they have more liquid between their skull and brain are less suspectable to these injuries than those lacking it. Now unless there is a way to xray how much liquid you got there and determine if your chances are higher or lower of being injured, there is no way to know that otherwise.
    Last edited by ELPacman; 05-13-2024, 04:25 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post
      Terrible. Anything can happen in the ring, but I have real doubts that his "medicals were all in order." A professional fighter should not have a heart attack in the ring after three rounds.
      When things are stressed they break under pressure, it happens a lot in sport this whole article is about it.

      In this study, autopsy reports and medical histories related to 1,102 total deaths were reviewed by an expert panel to determine the causes of death and found that:
      • 143 deaths (13%) were listed as sudden cardiac deaths.
      • In 19.5% of the sudden cardiac deaths, there were no clear structural heart abnormalities found during an autopsy. These cases therefore may be related to primary heart rhythm abnormalities that may increase the risk of sudden cardiac death in this group.
      • In the cases with enough evidence to determine the cause of sudden cardiac death: 17% were attributed to possible diseases of the heart muscle’s structure and function (idiopathic left ventricular hypertrophy/cardiomyopathy); and 13% were due to a thickened heart muscle, hampering heart function (hypertrophic cardiomyopathy), both of which may lead to abnormal heart rhythms.
      • Commotio cordis — the condition that reportedly affected NFL player Damar Hamlin earlier this year — accounted for 2 deaths during the 20-year study period.
      • There were no cases of death due to COVID-19-related myocarditis in the 2 ½ years of the pandemic included in the study.
      https://newsroom.heart.org/news/ncaa...-some-athletes

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

        When things are stressed they break under pressure, it happens a lot in sport this whole article is about it.

        In this study, autopsy reports and medical histories related to 1,102 total deaths were reviewed by an expert panel to determine the causes of death and found that:
        • 143 deaths (13%) were listed as sudden cardiac deaths.
        • In 19.5% of the sudden cardiac deaths, there were no clear structural heart abnormalities found during an autopsy. These cases therefore may be related to primary heart rhythm abnormalities that may increase the risk of sudden cardiac death in this group.
        • In the cases with enough evidence to determine the cause of sudden cardiac death: 17% were attributed to possible diseases of the heart muscle’s structure and function (idiopathic left ventricular hypertrophy/cardiomyopathy); and 13% were due to a thickened heart muscle, hampering heart function (hypertrophic cardiomyopathy), both of which may lead to abnormal heart rhythms.
        • Commotio cordis — the condition that reportedly affected NFL player Damar Hamlin earlier this year — accounted for 2 deaths during the 20-year study period.
        • There were no cases of death due to COVID-19-related myocarditis in the 2 ½ years of the pandemic included in the study.
        https://newsroom.heart.org/news/ncaa...-some-athletes
        It's hard to know for sure unless an autopsy is performed and some significant defect or pathology is discovered. I am not a medical doctor (but I am TOAA), but I would be surprised to learn that he was truly fit to fight. As you note though any body will break under sufficient pressure. Not sure how much amateur experience this man had, but perhaps his body was just not conditioned to tolerate the rigor of this level of combat yet.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

          Don’t try to silence him. It’s not out of the realm of possibility.

          Small study points to possible cause of myocarditis following mRNA vaccination in young men
          https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...tion-rcna82681
          Only an utter a’hole would try and troll in anti vax bull**** onto a serious discussion. It is outside the realm of significant possibility and he shouldn’t have mentioned it.

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          • #35
            Most likely the guy had a pre existing heart defect that wasn’t picked up in the usual pre fight checks. Occam’s razor, the simplest explanation is the most likely.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              I just gave you a link from a mainstream news source. It absolutely is NOT out of the realm of possibility.
              I didn’t say it was outside the realm of possibilty. I said it was outside the realm of significant possibility. Whilst the symptom can occur from the vaccine it’s most likely a tiny risk so perhaps 1 in 500,000 or something like that, look it up. Your mainstream news source is reliant on journalists. Go look at the paper they’ve based their article on as it will probably give the exact numbers.

              Anyway, by the time you’ve factored in the other more likely causes such as a congenital defect or head trauma due to blows then the head, the chances of it being vaccine related begin to pale into insignificance. Hence why I said significant possibility. I don’t consider it remotely significant. Certainly not enough to mention. Some using a poor understanding of science to push a politcal agenda about vaccines inappropriately on a thread about a boxer who lost his life. I find that distasteful and disrespectful.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ELPacman View Post


                Honestly, there are probably more we don't read or hear about. There is no real tread to it. It's just the fighters themselves. I posted an overly lengthy post on someone else's threads in to what I find contributes to why some fighters can take a punch while others cannot. Granted it was all theorized with no research done, lol. That said, you have to ask yourself how come some fighters can take brutal punches their entire career and live to see their end of days, while others barely get out of their first 10 fights without some traumatic injury.
                I mean, there are 100-yr olds who have been smoking their whole lives and wont die of lung cancer. We all have the same organs, but we have different compositions.

                Plus, sometimes a shot is just in the wrong place with too much power, although it's usually cumulative, like Matias v Dadashev.

                That's all aside from cutting weight and whatever specific things pertain to boxers.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by M111 View Post

                  His heart may have stopped due to trauma to the brain. The brain and the corotid sinus regulate heartbeat. If either get damaged it can put the heart into arhythm or stop it completely.

                  Cause of death listed on a death certificate doesn’t always tell the whole story. Death is always caused by a lack of oxygen to the brain.
                  Like how shots to the vagis nerve near the ear ko people.

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