Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis Is 'Delighted' That His 25-Year Reign Is About To End

[Pac=Duran]

I like Lennox Lewis, but the fact that he got knocked out cold twice by average competition can't be overlooked. Yes, he avenged them, but it doesn't erase them.

I agree. But the fact thay Fury was only ever in top shape for like 30% of his fights can't be overlooked. He would def train well for Lennox though to be fair.

Also Fury has been down 5 times. If Lennox caught Fury with a flush right hand would he get up?

Beyonce's power was overrated. Lennox had legit dynamite in his right hand

[Willow The Wisp]

I agree. But the fact thay Fury was only ever in top shape for like 30% of his fights can't be overlooked. He would def train well for Lennox though to be fair.

Also Fury has been down 5 times. If Lennox caught Fury with a flush right hand would he get up?

Beyonce's power was overrated. Lennox had legit dynamite in his right hand

Wilder's power = or better > Lewis, IMO

[PBR Streetgang]

Lewis was a heck of a champion. Combined size, good skills with very good power. He had a few defensive lapses and moments of complacency that resulted in losses.

Despite the polished appearance and calm demeanor, Lennox had a savage streak in him. His nastiness was on full display in the Grant fight.

I still remember a buddy and I snuck out of another friend's wedding reception early to go watch the Klitschko/Lewis fight. That was a violent affair between two big men...

[Pac=Duran]

Wilder's power = or better > Lewis, IMO

It's close but I favour lennox

[M111]

I like Lennox Lewis, but the fact that he got knocked out cold twice by average competition can't be overlooked. Yes, he avenged them, but it doesn't erase them.

No he didn’t. He wasn’t knocked out cold by either McCall or Rahman. Don’t exaggerate it. He failed to beat the count against Rahman but was getting up and he was stopped on his feet against McCall. I hate the way this is held up as some sort of justification for him being downgraded. Similarly it’s hardly demonstrative of a suspect chin. Have you watched any of Lewis’s fights? did you see how many’s times Klitschko, Briggs etc landed flush on Lewis and all he did was smile back. Lewis had one of the most solid chins in the division so yeah absolutely it can completely be overlooked so I totally disagree with you in that point.

Aside from Marciano he’s the only heavyweight champion to have beaten every man he ever faced. Moreover with Rahman it was the manner in which he beat him in the return which was probably the best knockout of Lewis’s career and an absolutely beautifully set up peach of a punch which did indeed render Rahman cold.

[M111]

Lewis and his generation were light years ahead of the current crop bar Usyk in terms of skills.

I don’t think Fury would see the 4th against Lewis. Fury’s best wins were against an unproven Wilder who had beaten literally nobody aside from and aging Ortiz. Let’s see how well Wilder does against Zhang - my guess is he’ll lose via a heavier, earlier one than Fury delivered.

Fury was put on this pedestal after beating wilder that I was never even remotely convinced by as I never rated Wilder in the first place.

Lewis on the other hand beat every single person he ever faced and bar the Klitschko fight where let’s face it he was purely after a payday before retirement, beat them all convincingly, most by knockout and the only dodgy decision was against Holyfield which everyone knows he won.

[mjh1969]

Wilder's power = or better > Lewis, IMO

I agree but Lennox had actual boxing skills unlike Wilder. All Wilder has is a big right hand. It worked against tomato cans but when he fought skilled guys his boxing skills were not enough to back up his power. Lennox's right hand is proven against Grant, Tyson, Golota, Razor Ruddock, etc. I don't even think Wilder or Fury would've made it to round 5 against Lewis.

[shakedaddy]

No he didn’t. He wasn’t knocked out cold by either McCall or Rahman. Don’t exaggerate it. He failed to beat the count against Rahman but was getting up and he was stopped on his feet against McCall. I hate the way this is held up as some sort of justification for him being downgraded. Similarly it’s hardly demonstrative of a suspect chin. Have you watched any of Lewis’s fights? did you see how many’s times Klitschko, Briggs etc landed flush on Lewis and all he did was smile back. Lewis had one of the most solid chins in the division so yeah absolutely it can completely be overlooked so I totally disagree with you in that point.

Aside from Marciano he’s the only heavyweight champion to have beaten every man he ever faced. Moreover with Rahman it was the manner in which he beat him in the return which was probably the best knockout of Lewis’s career and an absolutely beautifully set up peach of a punch which did indeed render Rahman cold.

Rahman wasn't knocked out cold either, he was getting up but falling back down. But yes, Lewis' chin is underrated, the KO shots he took would've KO' anyone and were a result of defensive lapses vs. a bad chin. The time you mentioned when Briggs smashed Lewis with a combo, and The Pugilist Specialist gives him that wry grin, and bashes him to the canvas was the moment I became a Lennox fan, b/c I did not like him prior, b/c of his style, and b/c I'm a rabid Real Deal Fan. I think that aside from those big KO shots from McCall and Rahman, the reason people think Lennox had a bad chin is b/c he was an enormous man who people couldn't fathom not having a proportionate chin quality, as he did seem to get on shaky legs a few times vs. smaller fighters like Holyfield, and b/c he played it safe vs. guys like Tua where he used his height/reach to perfection.

[HandsofIron]

Prob greatest heavy ever.

Until this recent crop. I think Lennox vs Tyson Firy would be 50/50. Maybe give a tiny edge to lennox

Not even close to the greatest HW ever, some you guys need to chill out with all the praise of the past bearers.

These are the facts - Lewis got KO'ed by two bums in his prime, that alone disqualifies him as any GoatHeavy.

[Willow The Wisp]

Lewis and his generation were light years ahead of the current crop bar Usyk in terms of skills.

I don’t think Fury would see the 4th against Lewis. Fury’s best wins were against an unproven Wilder who had beaten literally nobody aside from and aging Ortiz. Let’s see how well Wilder does against Zhang - my guess is he’ll lose via a heavier, earlier one than Fury delivered.

Fury was put on this pedestal after beating wilder that I was never even remotely convinced by as I never rated Wilder in the first place.

Lewis on the other hand beat every single person he ever faced and bar the Klitschko fight where let’s face it he was purely after a payday before retirement, beat them all convincingly, most by knockout and the only dodgy decision was against Holyfield which everyone knows he won.

I agree that Lewis was a truly great HWC. The best since Ali, Save only perhaps Holmes and Foreman.

But are you saying that if what happened to Lennox Lewis at age 29 and again at 34, happens to Wilder at age 38, then Wilder is out of the running as being one of the best of his era?

Why would that be?