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  • The Low Blow Dispute

    Let's put it to rest. LOW BLOWS are illegal PARTICULARLY if they are intentional.

    It may be, that since Schmeling won the heavyweight title from Sharkey because of a low blow that nobody saw, the ref has more discretion nowadays.

    Therefore although strictly speaking, a low blow is illegal, and can result in a penalty, either a loss of 1 or 2 points or a DQ. In PRACTICE, however, the ref nearly always does NOT take a point away for the 1st, or even often for the 2nd violation; he has the authority to give the "injured" fighter up to 5 minutes to recover.

    If the fighter is a good actor, like, say, Hopkins, or Vargas, he can spin it out for the full 5 minutes, or say he can't continue, thereby winning by DQ.

    Back to the Schmeling fight for a moment; his manager, Joe Jacobs, I believe [and am open to correction here] later produced a cup with a dinge in it. A few smart newspaper reporters experimented and discovered that to dinge a metal cup, you needed a hammer.....................

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    • That Cotto vs Judah fight cost me some money. I'm pretty sure the first low blow was intentional after he got hit hard and stunned by Judah. There was another intentional one the second time Cotto got in trouble, but in all honesty I call it Karma, after all Judah did the same to Mayweather before and I haven't seen Cotto do it that blatantly again.

      If my fighter was going to fight Cotto and I thought rushing him or finishing him off quickly was the best strategy. I would bring it up like roach is doing now.

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      • Guys, this is just Roach's way of getting in Cotto's head. Now Cotto will think twice about going too low. One moment of hesitation is all it takes. Good tactical move by Roach.

        On another note, it reminds me of Paulie complaining that he was gonna get robbed if it came to the cards. The Diaz loss wouldn't have been as big an issue if Paulie hadn't called that **** beforehand. I see Roach following the same concept with this move. If Cotto wins by stopping Pac's momentum with a low blow, people are gonna say Roach called that **** and be bothered enough to get a rematch going quick.

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        • Originally posted by ThePunchingBag View Post
          Guys, this is just Roach's way of getting in Cotto's head. Now Cotto will think twice about going too low. One moment of hesitation is all it takes. Good tactical move by Roach.

          On another note, it reminds me of Paulie complaining that he was gonna get robbed if it came to the cards. The Diaz loss wouldn't have been as big an issue if Paulie hadn't called that **** beforehand. I see Roach following the same concept with this move. If Cotto wins by stopping Pac's momentum with a low blow, people are gonna say Roach called that **** and be bothered enough to get a rematch going quick.
          yea, but i never heard roach sound this scared before

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          • Originally posted by bigboss1 View Post
            yea, but i never heard roach sound this scared before
            Its cuz this is Pac's toughest fight no doubt. I hope that my trainer looks out for me as much as Roach does Pac. The guy is checking all the avenues in order to give his fighter the best chance to win. You can't blame him for being a bit nervous that a Jr. WW is going to fight a WW. Pac may have the balls to do it, but Roach probably gets a bit jittery, Parkinson's disease aside.

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            • i smell something.... FEAR... roach knows this will not end good for pacman.

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              • 1st of all, I agree with Roach when he say's Joe Cortez should not be refeering this fight. Joe has PuertoRican blood running thru him although i beleive in his professionalism it would help to avoid any type of controversy. But did Roach had to go public and talk about and disrespect a Ref like he did, NO. That showed low class. He could have mad a written request to the comision and the promoters. For that Matter even the judges for the fight should be American, European or any nationality that is not Puerto Rican or Phillipines but be more classy about it.

                Regarding the "dirty tactics" of Cotto, all body puncher will have problems every once in a while with low blows. i mean we are talking inches away from what can be considered a body punch to a low blow, and all of this ois happening when you are receiving and throwing punches and you and your opponents are in constant movements. Same as when boxers throw punches at the head and miss by more than 6 inches without thee head even moving. They don't miss intentionally. Yes, Cotto hit Zab with a couple (not 5) of low blows, but to call hima dirty fighter is ridiculous.
                The fact is that it is part of boxing and if Freddie is aware of it.

                If Freddie is trying to get in Cotto's head, Cotto is too much a professional to fall for that.
                If Freddie's worried of a low blow, he should pick another sport.
                If Freddie is worried abot Cotto, he should had picked another opponent.

                The fact is that Cotto and Pacman haven't even talked and are so willing and waiting for this fight with no complains have been heard from neither of them.

                Freddie should just shut up and get his fighter ready for the fight!!!!

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                • Im tired of Roach the Drama Queen, he knows deep inside that his boy is going to get it & already is making excuses about why Manny lost.

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                  • First of all Cotto is probably the best body-puncher of recent decades... Those who ever stepped into the ring and tried to work to the body know that it happens sometimes...

                    And, yes, props to mr. Roach for his observation - Cotto always works to the "beads" when it is tough for him - just remember how he low-blowed Margarito in 7th and 11th - the toughest rounds of his career... Oh, wait a minute, did he???

                    Now watch this: (sorry, couldn`t find a better vid)


                    First low blow comes at 5:46 - look: Cotto throws a left hook, when his head is behind Judah`s... It was a "blind" punch... Yeh! It really sucks that Cotto is so precise at throwing blind low blows, but connects only 30-35% of his regular shots, when is actually watching at the target...

                    The second low blow is showed at 6:00... Just before Cotto throws that uppercut he gets hit to the back of his head, which turns his head 90 degrees... I can asume that, THAT hit could "slightly" knock Cotto of his sight...

                    P.S. to sum up - i don`t find Cotto a dirty boxer. Even more, i find him a very brave boxer, who takes challenges, and is gutsy enough not to turn his "stool mode" on, and capable of fighting for half an hour with blood pouring from his eyebrow into his eye... I think the sport of boxing needs more fighters like Cotto, Pacquaio, Marquez brothers and Izzy Vasquez!

                    And i find it a shame that, probably, ATG trainer (personally i find him overrated, i think Manny created Roach not vice versa) calles, hypothetically, the ATG fighter a "dirty" one...

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                    • Originally posted by prsi View Post
                      1st of all, I agree with Roach when he say's Joe Cortez should not be refeering this fight. Joe has PuertoRican blood running thru him although i beleive in his professionalism it would help to avoid any type of controversy. But did Roach had to go public and talk about and disrespect a Ref like he did, NO. That showed low class. He could have mad a written request to the comision and the promoters. For that Matter even the judges for the fight should be American, European or any nationality that is not Puerto Rican or Phillipines but be more classy about it.

                      Regarding the "dirty tactics" of Cotto, all body puncher will have problems every once in a while with low blows. i mean we are talking inches away from what can be considered a body punch to a low blow, and all of this ois happening when you are receiving and throwing punches and you and your opponents are in constant movements. Same as when boxers throw punches at the head and miss by more than 6 inches without thee head even moving. They don't miss intentionally. Yes, Cotto hit Zab with a couple (not 5) of low blows, but to call hima dirty fighter is ridiculous.
                      The fact is that it is part of boxing and if Freddie is aware of it.

                      If Freddie is trying to get in Cotto's head, Cotto is too much a professional to fall for that.
                      If Freddie's worried of a low blow, he should pick another sport.
                      If Freddie is worried abot Cotto, he should had picked another opponent.

                      The fact is that Cotto and Pacman haven't even talked and are so willing and waiting for this fight with no complains have been heard from neither of them.

                      Freddie should just shut up and get his fighter ready for the fight!!!!
                      I agree completely... Can`t give green yet

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