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  • Oregonian
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    #101
    Originally posted by factsarenice


    I'll try to make it simple because I think your missing the point.

    Bud Crawford is moving up for the first time to 154lbs. Bud is fighting the only guy in a higher weight-class available and willing with a meaningful belt. Why? because Bud "light in the ass" Crawford is attempting to do something never done before in history and that is unify a 4th division, and that's really, really hard. In fact it's almost impossible considering that all, not some but all, the powers in boxing are trying make sure that never happens.
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    I respect your honestly, at least you admit that don't know who Israil Madrimov is and that's fine, but other people do. Go ahead and watch footage, read up and you'll know who he is too. In the meantime, those that know Israil Madrimov also know that he's bigger, stronger and far better better than either Avanesyan or Kavaliauskas.

    Ennis is fighting a guy at 147 and well on his way to winning a belt and that's great news because like Bud, the powers in Boxing don't want him to succeed either.

    Hope this helps.
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    I don’t disagree with you on the history making part. Crawford will do something no one has ever done. My takeaway is that beating Madrinov is a guarantee. There is no one in boxing circles that believes Madrinov stands a chance. It is a safer option than Boots.
    Let’s say for argument’s sake, Bud could make more fighting Boors, the option would still be Madrinov.

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    • factsarenice
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      #102
      Originally posted by Oregonian
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      I don’t disagree with you on the history making part. Crawford will do something no one has ever done. My takeaway is that beating Madrinov is a guarantee. There is no one in boxing circles that believes Madrinov stands a chance. It is a safer option than Boots.
      I don't know if Jaron Ennis a bigger threat than Madrinov because I've never seen Jaron fight anyone close to that level of fighter, and neither has anyone else
      Originally posted by Oregonian
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      Let’s say for argument’s sake, Bud could make more fighting Boors, the option would still be Madrinov.
      For argument sake... if Bud could make more fighting jaron Ennis and Jaron had the belts, I have no doubt that Crawford would be gunning for Jaron Ennis. Crawford still think's he can beat Canelo so I pretty sure he'd fight Jaron Ennis.

      To be honest, I'm not sure Crawford beat anyone at 154 and includes Ennis but right now Crawford is 100% focused on unifying 154 and that starts with Madrinov. IMO, Madrinov, Ortiz and Tszyu beat Fundora but the winner of Tszyu / Ortiz presents the biggest challenge to the division.
      Last edited by factsarenice; 05-05-2024, 08:20 PM.

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        #103
        Originally posted by factsarenice

        I don't know if Jaron Ennis a bigger threat than Madrinov because I've never seen Jaron fight anyone close to that level of fighter, and neither has anyone else

        For argument sake... if Bud could make more fighting jaron Ennis and Jaron had the belts, I have no doubt that Crawford would be gunning for Jaron Ennis. Crawford still think's he can beat Canelo so I pretty sure he'd fight Jaron Ennis.

        To be honest, I'm not sure Crawford beat anyone at 154 and includes Ennis but right now Crawford is 100% focused on unifying 154 and that starts with Madrinov. IMO, Madrinov, Ortiz and Tszyu beat Fundora but the winner of Tszyu / Ortiz presents the biggest challenge to the division.
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        Mardinov is 10-0. That’s ten pro fights and you think a guy that’s 31-0 has never fought anyone close to a 10-0 guy? Bruh! Come on! Make it make sense.
        The 154 division is weak and I am pretty certain Crawford beats everyone and unifies the division.

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        • factsarenice
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          #104
          Originally posted by Oregonian
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          Mardinov is 10-0. That’s ten pro fights and you think a guy that’s 31-0 has never fought anyone close to a 10-0 guy? Bruh! Come on! Make it make sense.
          The 154 division is weak and I am pretty certain Crawford beats everyone and unifies the division.
          Lomachanko won his first belt in his 3rd fight. Number of fights isn't everything, not when you've had well over 100+ amateur fights.

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            #105
            Originally posted by factsarenice

            Lomachanko won his first belt in his 3rd fight. Number of fights isn't everything, not when you've had well over 100+ amateur fights.
            To add to your point...

            Madrimov opponents 259-40-2 86% win rate Ennis opponents 478-262-34 61% win rate
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              #106
              Originally posted by factsarenice

              Lomachanko won his first belt in his 3rd fight. Number of fights isn't everything, not when you've had well over 100+ amateur fights.
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              Lomachenko was a decorated amateur standout and
              won two gold medals at the Olympics. He is considered by most to be the most successful amateur boxer ever.
              A month ago, no one had heard of Madrinov. We all knew who Loma was on his fight and the expectations the world had on him.

              Guess what? Loma fulfilled all those expectations and then some. Madrinov will get beat by Bud and we will never hear of him again.

              Bud will then go on to shockingly beat Fundira because that’s a close fight, right? The next guy he beats will be Mutazalief and then whoever his fans believe will be the greatest threat of his career.

              I mean, Floyd could unretire and challenge Bud at 154 and when he gets beat because he’ll be 47 years old, Bud’s fans will say it’s the greatest win of the century.

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                #107
                Originally posted by Oregonian
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                Lomachenko was a decorated amateur standout and
                won two gold medals at the Olympics. He is considered by most to be the most successful amateur boxer ever.
                A month ago, no one had heard of Madrinov. We all knew who Loma was on his fight and the expectations the world had on him.

                Guess what? Loma fulfilled all those expectations and then some. Madrinov will get beat by Bud and we will never hear of him again.

                Bud will then go on to shockingly beat Fundira because that’s a close fight, right? The next guy he beats will be Mutazalief and then whoever his fans believe will be the greatest threat of his career.

                I mean, Floyd could unretire and challenge Bud at 154 and when he gets beat because he’ll be 47 years old, Bud’s fans will say it’s the greatest win of the century.
                Lomachanko didn't run into Floyd in his first outing, and that's the difference.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by factsarenice

                  Lomachanko didn't run into Floyd in his first outing, and that's the difference.
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                  And if he had, you know very well how that would have played out. And that brings me to the point I keep making, imagine Loma running into Floyd in his first outing AND as expected, he gets vaporized and Floyd wins a belt in what would be his 4th weight class. Would you be raving about it being an incredible accomplishment?

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                  • factsarenice
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Oregonian
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                    And if he had, you know very well how that would have played out. And that brings me to the point I keep making, imagine Loma running into Floyd in his first outing AND as expected, he gets vaporized and Floyd wins a belt in what would be his 4th weight class. Would you be raving about it being an incredible accomplishment?
                    I guess the analogy went right over your head but hey, keep working on it, don't give up.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by factsarenice

                      I don't know if Jaron Ennis a bigger threat than Madrinov because I've never seen Jaron fight anyone close to that level of fighter, and neither has anyone else


                      For argument sake... if Bud could make more fighting jaron Ennis and Jaron had the belts, I have no doubt that Crawford would be gunning for Jaron Ennis. Crawford still think's he can beat Canelo so I pretty sure he'd fight Jaron Ennis.

                      To be honest, I'm not sure Crawford beat anyone at 154 and includes Ennis but right now Crawford is 100% focused on unifying 154 and that starts with Madrinov. IMO, Madrinov, Ortiz and Tszyu beat Fundora but the winner of Tszyu / Ortiz presents the biggest challenge to the division.
                      You cant see the technique, speed and footwork in Ennis, stands out like dogs balls to me, on the contrary Madrinov is tight and quite slow, he will be very tough but TC will chop him to pieces for the very same reason Ennis has so much potential, on the way up they don't have to beat big name guys to see the potential, in prospects its how they beat them.

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