Does Wilders reach give him more power in hooks?

[Boxing 112]

No, it's a different leverage point is all. Power comes from the thigh.

Must be an exception here cause can't be coming from those thighs

[automaton89]

It could, in theory, due to longer lever arm, but where the ligaments attach also makes a big difference in terms of acceleration (and risk of injury). There's some tall, lanky guys who do have a ton of power in their hooks. Junto Nakatani comes to mind, or Navarrete. Technique and timing matter a lot though.

Do you consider perreria lanky?

[crimsonfalcon07]

Do you consider perreria lanky?

That dude has crazy power. That being said, his power comes IMO primarily from his technique and his ability to maximize the power coming from his kinetic chain by maintaining relaxation all the way into the moment of impact. That's how you're supposed to do it but very few people have mastered it the way Poatan has. That's why it looks so effortless, like he's not even really hitting hard, but then ****. The analogy I like to use is a chain, with some pipe over it. The pipe is muscle tension. If you don't have the pipe over the chain, it can flow nicely (like battle rope, etc). As soon as you put the pipe on the chain and lock up some links (you could tape them also), you'll feel the effort required increase immediately. Similarly, if you have tension around any of your joints, the kinetic chain effectively stops there and has to push all the remaining mass, greatly reducing power. Obviously it's not a perfect analogy, but I find it usually conveys the sense of it.

[automaton89]

That dude has crazy power. That being said, his power comes IMO primarily from his technique and his ability to maximize the power coming from his kinetic chain by maintaining relaxation all the way into the moment of impact. That's how you're supposed to do it but very few people have mastered it the way Poatan has. That's why it looks so effortless, like he's not even really hitting hard, but then ****. The analogy I like to use is a chain, with some pipe over it. The pipe is muscle tension. If you don't have the pipe over the chain, it can flow nicely (like battle rope, etc). As soon as you put the pipe on the chain and lock up some links (you could tape them also), you'll feel the effort required increase immediately. Similarly, if you have tension around any of your joints, the kinetic chain effectively stops there and has to push all the remaining mass, greatly reducing power. Obviously it's not a perfect analogy, but I find it usually conveys the sense of it.

I agreed that His hook is marvelous but he would get slaughtered in high level boxing. His defensive movement is non existent and His chin isn't particularly strong

[hhh1200]

Fight negative for the first 4-6 and test Zhang lack of endurance. Wilder is the one with one-punch power. Zhang is more accumulation. If Wilder fights the right fight, at some point Zhang is going to get tired of following him around and lax like Ortiz 2 which will give Wilder an opening to land a bomb.

Wilder mid-round KO

Zhang isn't technical like Ortiz or super athletic like Parker, kind of an ox like Breazil when he gets tired.

[Willow The Wisp]

are we still pretending wilder is the biggest puncher in boxing history or something nonsensical like that?

You're not only a boxing knowledge lightweight, but also a racist clown and you hate Deontay Wilder. Understood.
He nevertheless stands today as the 2nd best current gen heavyweight; unless Usyk can do something special against Fury and Joshua can make us forget being blown to pieces against Ruiz.
No offense.

[eco1]

Who knows? It used to come from the hips... NSB....

[Toffee]

People get very hung up on speed as a factor in power. It's a factor but so is the mass behind it... and as you move further away from the pivot point, that mass has less impact.

The toe of a golf club moves faster than the sweet spot if the club face. The end of a baseball or cricket bat does too. And the end of your foot when kicking a ball as well.

Wilder can probably windmill and make his hands move faster than most, but it doesn't mean that same movement hits harder.

[MONGOOSE66]

are we still pretending wilder is the biggest puncher in boxing history or something nonsensical like that?

Pretending?? Look at his record. That’s not make believe.

[MONGOOSE66]

That dude has crazy power. That being said, his power comes IMO primarily from his technique and his ability to maximize the power coming from his kinetic chain by maintaining relaxation all the way into the moment of impact. That's how you're supposed to do it but very few people have mastered it the way Poatan has. That's why it looks so effortless, like he's not even really hitting hard, but then ****. The analogy I like to use is a chain, with some pipe over it. The pipe is muscle tension. If you don't have the pipe over the chain, it can flow nicely (like battle rope, etc). As soon as you put the pipe on the chain and lock up some links (you could tape them also), you'll feel the effort required increase immediately. Similarly, if you have tension around any of your joints, the kinetic chain effectively stops there and has to push all the remaining mass, greatly reducing power. Obviously it's not a perfect analogy, but I find it usually conveys the sense of it.

Very well put. I’d like to also add that he is freakishly big for his fighting weight.