Comments Thread For: Trainer Says Terence Crawford Is Nearing 'Greatest Ever' Tier

[LAchargers373]

So nothing. Spence activated the rematch clause and Bud was legally tied into honoring that until it expired. You want to blame someone, go talk to Spence. Ennis was SPENCE's mandatory, not Bud's. Spence was the one who only defended his IBF belt ONE time in 4 years. Bud was legally prevented from taking that fight, which we KNEW was going to happen before the fight even happened thanks to the rematch clause. Just as we know already that Hrgovic will likely become email champ if the loser of Usyk - Fury activates their rematch clause.

Takes a real idiot to think that Bud ducking has anything to do with it. You going to be bleating about how the undisputed heavyweight champion is ducking Hrgovic if the loser activates their rematch clause and the IBF strips the champion because of it?

Spence didn’t have any belts bud had them

[vitruvian]

Boxing accomplishments and accolades aside (and he has his share of those) just pure boxing skill it is just my humble opinion that TC is perhaps the greatest boxer who ever lived. He has the timing speed power everything to have beaten Floyd Mayweather. It's a tall order but it would take someone like Bud to pull it off. We'll never see it obviously but fun to envision these fights. He's certainly in that special Hall within that HOF building. The GOAT Hall. There's only like five guys in that hall maybe six (Robinson; Armstrong; Ali; Leonard; Mayweather; Crawford). Arguments could be made otherwise but those are the special among the special for me.

[Roadblock]

Boxing accomplishments and accolades aside (and he has his share of those) just pure boxing skill it is just my humble opinion that TC is perhaps the greatest boxer who ever lived. He has the timing speed power everything to have beaten Floyd Mayweather. It's a tall order but it would take someone like Bud to pull it off. We'll never see it obviously but fun to envision these fights. He's certainly in that special Hall within that HOF building. The GOAT Hall. There's only like five guys in that hall maybe six (Robinson; Armstrong; Ali; Leonard; Mayweather; Crawford). Arguments could be made otherwise but those are the special among the special for me.

He hasn't fought anyone close to great so what is the parameters, off course he is going to look impressive beating lesser opponents, if you look at logic you are only as good as who you beat, you cannot correlate skills between guys with such a wide gaps in the level of opponents, TCs resume is so weak for the high stature of the fighter, in my mind he still has things to do before he is crowned an ATG, right now he could be another Terry Norris blowing guys out, I wanted him to fight Canelo because that's shooting for greatness and would take a great to pull it off, but that's the type of thing he needs to do, collecting belts doesn't cut it for me .

[markther]

I just don’t see how Bud would be all time great with his “current” resume. I mean with all the losses Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, and even Sugar Ray Leonard had, they beat a lot of hall of famers in their day just like Floyd did. When we look back at Floyd’s career 10-15 years from now, all we will see is all his HOF wins not the circumstances behind them, HOF Marguez, HOF Hatton, HOF Cotto, HOF Mosely, HOF Alvarez, HOF Gatti, HOF Corrales, HOF Genaro Hernandez, HOF Oscar, eventual HOF Castillo….has any boxer beat 10 HOF’ers. Bud has possibly 1 on his resume Spence. Sugar Ray Leonard has Hearns, Hagler, Duran, & Benitez. Ali has a bunch, Norton, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Patterson, Moore.

[JOITATS]

If Crawford becomes undisputed at 154 lbs you simply have to give the man his credit. There’s nothing bad to say about that.

You must be a jealous Inoue fan.

WTF
He hasn't become undisputed at 154.

If you're really the best, then you don't need to keep telling everyone that.
If anything, Crawford is jealous of Inoue. He puts him down, to elevate himself.

[LG Motel 22]

Ennis, Tszyu/Ortiz, Fundora and then he can start yelping from the rafters

[Willow The Wisp]

He's legitimately in the running for best of the 21st century, but he has more to do if that's his goal, if he wants to seal the deal.

All-Time is a long time however, and there's too many who have too much on him back in the 20th century for him to pass by.

[Gary Coleman]

Boxing accomplishments and accolades aside (and he has his share of those) just pure boxing skill it is just my humble opinion that TC is perhaps the greatest boxer who ever lived. He has the timing speed power everything to have beaten Floyd Mayweather. It's a tall order but it would take someone like Bud to pull it off. We'll never see it obviously but fun to envision these fights. He's certainly in that special Hall within that HOF building. The GOAT Hall. There's only like five guys in that hall maybe six (Robinson; Armstrong; Ali; Leonard; Mayweather; Crawford). Arguments could be made otherwise but those are the special among the special for me.

It is my opinion that guys like Shane Mosley, Trinidad and Hoya would have blasted through Crawford's resume with relative ease, knocking out even more guys than he did.

Bud has the misfortune of being in a weak era, but he isn't exactly clamoring to challenge himself either.

[daggum]

I just don’t see how Bud would be all time great with his “current” resume. I mean with all the losses Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, and even Sugar Ray Leonard had, they beat a lot of hall of famers in their day just like Floyd did. When we look back at Floyd’s career 10-15 years from now, all we will see is all his HOF wins not the circumstances behind them, HOF Marguez, HOF Hatton, HOF Cotto, HOF Mosely, HOF Alvarez, HOF Gatti, HOF Corrales, HOF Genaro Hernandez, HOF Oscar, eventual HOF Castillo….has any boxer beat 10 HOF’ers. Bud has possibly 1 on his resume Spence. Sugar Ray Leonard has Hearns, Hagler, Duran, & Benitez. Ali has a bunch, Norton, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Patterson, Moore.

i dont think thats true at all. people now dont say berbick and leon spinks are great because they beat hall of famer ali. same concept just done over a longer period of time for floyd. great wins over great prime opponents? none found. and thats the way he wanted it.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Spence didn’t have any belts bud had them

Spence had 3 belts, including the IBF belt that Ennis was mandatory for. That's the belt he held the longest, but he only defended against a mandatory one time in 4 years. Ennis had 5 months of being mandatory for Spence but didn't petition for his shot until Bud v Spence was agreed. Then after Bud won, he waited to petition for his shot v Bud until Spence activated the rematch clause.

Once Spence activated that rematch clause, Bud was legally prevented from taking any other fight until the clause expired. That was all known before the fight even happened. Same thing would have happened to Spence if he'd won. Same thing will happen to the winner of Fury v Usyk. That's the issue with rematch clauses. They legally prevent a fighter from taking any other fight while they're active.