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  • #51
    Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post

    Madrimov's opponents combined record in 11 fights: 259-40-2

    Bud's first 11 opponents combined record: 64-122-4

    Point being, this kid is being matched much more aggressively than most fighters in their first 11 fights. He beat the guy who gave J Rock his first loss, in his first pro fight. Madrimov is a highly skilled fighter with over 300 wins as an amateur who uses a fast aggressive style. Only other fighter I've seen who was matched that aggressively early on as a pro was Lomachenko (combined record of his first 11 opponents was 308-27-13)

    I'll say it right now, this will be a tough fight for Bud, tougher than the Porter fight
    I see what you're saying but being matched that aggressively can sometimes backfire, it happened to Loma vs Salido (although Salido cheated on the scales coming in overweight) and his haters still hound him to this day about taking that early L.

    And I agree, this is a dangerous fight for Bud, moving up a new weight class isn't easy, and he isn't the most durable guy around.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post

      Madrimov's opponents combined record in 11 fights: 259-40-2

      Bud's first 11 opponents combined record: 64-122-4

      Point being, this kid is being matched much more aggressively than most fighters in their first 11 fights. He beat the guy who gave J Rock his first loss, in his first pro fight. Madrimov is a highly skilled fighter with over 300 wins as an amateur who uses a fast aggressive style. Only other fighter I've seen who was matched that aggressively early on as a pro was Lomachenko (combined record of his first 11 opponents was 308-27-13)

      I'll say it right now, this will be a tough fight for Bud, tougher than the Porter fight
      Inoue's first 11 opponents were 246-43-18. He is up there for tough matchups. David Morrell's opponents were 217-23-7. For other reference, Ennis' first 11 opponents are 87-93-15. But NSB thinks Morrell, Madrimov (and Inoue, for that matter) are hypejob bums, but Ennis is the future great who will dethrone Bud.
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      • #53
        [QUOTE=HisExcellency;n32247927]

        Sorry but you have to give Amir Khan a little bit of credit here...although he had a GLASS chin, the man was a warrior who fought the best competition available i.e. Garcia, Canelo + Crawford or chased after them hard e.g. Mayweather & Pacquiao. Also, despite his limitations, he was a 2x world champion and beat a number of tough fighter's including Maidana (who gave Mayweather his closest fight in years) plus several tough BLACK guys like Alexander, Judah & arguably Peterson who was later busted for PED's and won the fight via a controversial hometown SD despite being dropped twice (1 was incorrectly ruled a slip) and Khan being docked 2 points for pushing. In fact, both Lederman & Rafael scored the bout for Khan and the WBA later reinstated him as champion.

        Therefore, he's definitely ONE of the greatest fighter's Britain's ever produced although clearly not the best

        Khan ran from Kell Brook for over a dozen years. One of the longest ducks in boxing history. Only fought him after GGG broke one side of his face and Errol broke the other side. And after Bud knocked him out. And Brook, even after all that damage, titanium plates and screws on both sides of his face, and after almost bleeding to death after being slashed with a machete on Tenerife for trying to get fresh with men (No Diddy), Kell still beat Khan like he was an unruly toddler. So no way possible Khan is better or higher in British boxing history than Kell Brook. Remember only reason Brook went up to face GGG was because he was being avoided at Welterweight. He showed he was the better man against Shawn Porter. Who was in his prime when Kell beat him. Porter isn't an easy night for anyone and Kell handled him. So at his best, he's wayy betrer than Khan ever was. He just didnt have the names willing to face him. They all fought Khan because he was easy to hurt

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        • #54
          Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post

          Since Africa is weak, Go to any country in Africa and pick a random fight. Let me know how it pans out for you.
          I don't pick random fights for no reason, but if I ever had a problem with an African I'd be extremely laughably confident judging by seeing them for many years in boxing

          Anyway all I have to do is watch the Commonwealth Games every 4 years to see how easy it is for the tiny nations of the UK to beat up the much larger African nations so easily

          It's hilarious just how bad they are. You can see the who is the superior race at every commonwealth games in boxing, it really couldn't be more clear.
          Last edited by Don_Jah; 05-01-2024, 06:53 PM.

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          • #55
            [QUOTE=archiemoore1;n32248461]
            Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

            Sorry but you have to give Amir Khan a little bit of credit here...although he had a GLASS chin, the man was a warrior who fought the best competition available i.e. Garcia, Canelo + Crawford or chased after them hard e.g. Mayweather & Pacquiao. Also, despite his limitations, he was a 2x world champion and beat a number of tough fighter's including Maidana (who gave Mayweather his closest fight in years) plus several tough BLACK guys like Alexander, Judah & arguably Peterson who was later busted for PED's and won the fight via a controversial hometown SD despite being dropped twice (1 was incorrectly ruled a slip) and Khan being docked 2 points for pushing. In fact, both Lederman & Rafael scored the bout for Khan and the WBA later reinstated him as champion.

            Therefore, he's definitely ONE of the greatest fighter's Britain's ever produced although clearly not the best

            Khan ran from Kell Brook for over a dozen years. One of the longest ducks in boxing history. Only fought him after GGG broke one side of his face and Errol broke the other side. And after Bud knocked him out. And Brook, even after all that damage, titanium plates and screws on both sides of his face, and after almost bleeding to death after being slashed with a machete on Tenerife for trying to get fresh with men (No Diddy), Kell still beat Khan like he was an unruly toddler. So no way possible Khan is better or higher in British boxing history than Kell Brook. Remember only reason Brook went up to face GGG was because he was being avoided at Welterweight. He showed he was the better man against Shawn Porter. Who was in his prime when Kell beat him. Porter isn't an easy night for anyone and Kell handled him. So at his best, he's wayy betrer than Khan ever was. He just didnt have the names willing to face him. They all fought Khan because he was easy to hurt
            Slow down partner...I NEVER said that Khan was a better fighter than Brook and have always rated Kell as the better of the two (even before they fought). Also, even though I agree that Khan avoided Brook at Welterweight, it's NOT for the reason you think. Khan has always been an egomaniac and foolishly believed himself to be the best fighter on the planet which is why he fought Canelo + Crawford (who were both rated p4p #1 at the time) and actively pursued fights with Pacquiao + Mayweather. Therefore, he decided to chase greatness by fighting Canelo 2 divisions higher than take the 'easy' fight against Kell in his natural weight class. Obviously his plan spectacularly backfired and Canelo laid him out flat like an ironing board and took a few years off his career. As a consequence, Kell was forced to do the same thing against Golovkin who destroyed him and also shortened his career. Therefore, I BLAME Khan for ruining both of their careers but this doesn't change the fact that he was still a 2x world champion and holds victories over several tough fighter's (including black guys) so has to be included amongst Britain's greatest fighter's ever (especially if you're including Yarde who HASN'T even won a world title).

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Don_Jah View Post

              I don't pick random fights for no reason, but if I ever had a problem with an African I'd be extremely laughably confident judging by seeing them for many years in boxing

              Anyway all I have to do is watch the Commonwealth Games every 4 years to see how easy it is for the tiny nations of the UK to beat up the much larger African nations so easily

              It's hilarious just how bad they are. You can see the who is the superior race at every commonwealth games in boxing, it really couldn't be more clear.
              LMAO the disgusting racist piece of dog poop is back spouting his racist BS...has it ever occurred to you that the countless legendary Black American, Black British, Black Latino fighter's throughout boxing history ALL trace their lineage to the great continent of Africa? Therefore, boxer's of African descent can definitely fight and have probably produced more world champions than any other continent in recent history - especially in the higher weight divisions.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Don_Jah View Post

                I don't pick random fights for no reason, but if I ever had a problem with an African I'd be extremely laughably confident judging by seeing them for many years in boxing

                Anyway all I have to do is watch the Commonwealth Games every 4 years to see how easy it is for the tiny nations of the UK to beat up the much larger African nations so easily

                It's hilarious just how bad they are. You can see the who is the superior race at every commonwealth games in boxing, it really couldn't be more clear.
                You contradict yourself. You say you don't pick random fights, but sure are a warrior on this keyboard. You say you'd be confident against an African, huh? So go fight Nigerian Efe Ajagba, Ilunga Makabu from the Congo, or Thabiso Mchunu of South Africa. There's three (3) dudes from west, central, and south Africa right there. Africa is full of talent like this. And now you're doing the superior race talk bs. You're that salty just because i talked about the state of British dental hygiene and their horse breath. You're a UK deplorable
                Last edited by archiemoore1; 05-02-2024, 10:54 PM.

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                • #58
                  [QUOTE=HisExcellency;n32249054]
                  Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post

                  Slow down partner...I NEVER said that Khan was a better fighter than Brook and have always rated Kell as the better of the two (even before they fought). Also, even though I agree that Khan avoided Brook at Welterweight, it's NOT for the reason you think. Khan has always been an egomaniac and foolishly believed himself to be the best fighter on the planet which is why he fought Canelo + Crawford (who were both rated p4p #1 at the time) and actively pursued fights with Pacquiao + Mayweather. Therefore, he decided to chase greatness by fighting Canelo 2 divisions higher than take the 'easy' fight against Kell in his natural weight class. Obviously his plan spectacularly backfired and Canelo laid him out flat like an ironing board and took a few years off his career. As a consequence, Kell was forced to do the same thing against Golovkin who destroyed him and also shortened his career. Therefore, I BLAME Khan for ruining both of their careers but this doesn't change the fact that he was still a 2x world champion and holds victories over several tough fighter's (including black guys) so has to be included amongst Britain's greatest fighter's ever (especially if you're including Yarde who HASN'T even won a world title).
                  Khan does suffer from extreme delusion, but I think he fought Canelo because he thought Canelo had heavy legs and that he could use his speed and peck him to death. As soon as he posed for a picture, a single swipe from a polar bear paw almost knocked his brains out and decapitated him. As for Bud, idk wtf he thought he gonna do with Crawford to be honest.

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                  • #59
                    [QUOTE=archiemoore1;n32250265]
                    Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

                    Khan does suffer from extreme delusion, but I think he fought Canelo because he thought Canelo had heavy legs and that he could use his speed and peck him to death. As soon as he posed for a picture, a single swipe from a polar bear paw almost knocked his brains out and decapitated him. As for Bud, idk wtf he thought he gonna do with Crawford to be honest.
                    Obviously he believed he could outbox Canelo and was actually doing well for the first 6 rounds absorbing Canelo's power shots and arguably winning the fight. However, unfortunately he got caught and got his brains splattered in the process. Still, none of this changes the FACT that Khan was a warrior who didn't shy away from any top fighters including Maidana, Garcia, Crawford, Canelo & even Brook in the end. Therefore, you have to give him credit for that. Also, he's an Olympic Silver medallist and 2x world champion who was a PROPER champion i.e. beat the champion instead of fighting for a vacant title and DEFENDED his belt FIVE times.

                    As for the Crawford fight, there's levels to this sport and Bud proved why he was widely considered p4p #1 at the time. Ditto for Canelo.

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