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  • Boxing2695
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    #11
    I'd like to see Ryan vs Teofimo late in the year. The build up would be fun and also both guys are pretty similar because both tend to rely on there athletism to get them through fights. So it would either be explosive or a stale mate.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Boxing2695
      I'd like to see Ryan vs Teofimo late in the year. The build up would be fun and also both guys are pretty similar because both tend to rely on there athletism to get them through fights. So it would either be explosive or a stale mate.
      It would be amazing to see Garcia humble the 2 most annoying fathers in boxing history one after the other.

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #13
        Comparing these four to the four kings is sacrilegious.

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          #14
          More like 4 princesses the way they run their mouths on social media and don't fight each other. Credit to Ryan for fighting Tank and Haney. Let's do Teo at a catchweight so if Ryan wins he can continue not being a champion. He keeps that up long enough, Mauricio will make him a special belt. It's crazy that Haney, who's a defensive fighter, couldn't avoid that left hook. Everyone knows it's Ryan's singular and signature weapon.

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          • Theshotyoudontsee
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            #15
            Ironically, the best of the four is the guy people make fun of and call names like Cryin and Princess. I have said since watching Garcia take Campbell's best shot and get up, and then proceed to knock him out, that Garcia is for real. Has big power and is fast as hell. Everyone made fun of me for saying it back then, but the kid is naturally more talented and has more power than the hugely hyped up guys.

            All I've seen on this forum is 90% of people hate the dude because he is an influencer, good looking, and talks openly about God. And he doesn't pretend to be some perfect person, has a sense of humor and personality.

            Garcia has the ability to be a great of this era. Haney has no power but he has elite boxing skill. Ryan walked through him. Garcia is willing to fight whomever, he is a throwback and he is for real. Of the four mentioned, only Garcia competes against greats from other eras. Because he has intangibles, and isn't scared.

            I will make a crazy prediction for you all. If Garcia ends up fighting Ennis, Garcia stops him. He hits too hard and Ennis takes big shots. Ennis would try to outclass him and get caught.

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            • juanpablo
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              #16
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              Comparing these four to the four kings is sacrilegious.
              Not even at the Benitez level fr.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee
                Ironically, the best of the four is the guy people make fun of and call names like Cryin and Princess. I have said since watching Garcia take Campbell's best shot and get up, and then proceed to knock him out, that Garcia is for real. Has big power and is fast as hell. Everyone made fun of me for saying it back then, but the kid is naturally more talented and has more power than the hugely hyped up guys.

                All I've seen on this forum is 90% of people hate the dude because he is an influencer, good looking, and talks openly about God. And he doesn't pretend to be some perfect person, has a sense of humor and personality.

                Garcia has the ability to be a great of this era. Haney has no power but he has elite boxing skill. Ryan walked through him. Garcia is willing to fight whomever, he is a throwback and he is for real. Of the four mentioned, only Garcia competes against greats from other eras. Because he has intangibles, and isn't scared.

                I will make a crazy prediction for you all. If Garcia ends up fighting Ennis, Garcia stops him. He hits too hard and Ennis takes big shots. Ennis would try to outclass him and get caught.
                Garcia has the talent and ability, but he hamstrings himself by being arrogant so he doesn't improve. He doesn't have the dedication and work ethic. That's why he annoys me; he really could be great, and should have been a world champion multiple times over like everyone else in his generation, but here he is STILL without a title, when if he'd just made weight he'd be champion now. He can't stop himself from getting in his own way.

                Also, Haney and Lopez are the ones who fought the great from another era. Ryan hasn't gotten in with Loma and never will because he's too big now.

                Also it says everything that he's a one dimensional fighter. All he's got is that left hook. He hasn't developed both hands. Like Deontay Wilder with his right. Maybe Derrick James can help him grow. But he's such a stagnant fighter for a kid with that much talent. I think that has way more to do with it, that he's constantly in his own way and it's irritating to see someone squander their career with lack of professionalism like he does constantly.

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                • GrandpaBernard
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by juanpablo

                  Not even at the Benitez level fr.
                  These guys aren’t even on the level of Barrera manny Morales Juan

                  Ry scored a huge upset and looked like a one punch fighter who kept getting smothered and couldn’t finish a hurt opponent

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                  • Theshotyoudontsee
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                    Garcia has the talent and ability, but he hamstrings himself by being arrogant so he doesn't improve. He doesn't have the dedication and work ethic. That's why he annoys me; he really could be great, and should have been a world champion multiple times over like everyone else in his generation, but here he is STILL without a title, when if he'd just made weight he'd be champion now. He can't stop himself from getting in his own way.

                    Also, Haney and Lopez are the ones who fought the great from another era. Ryan hasn't gotten in with Loma and never will because he's too big now.

                    Also it says everything that he's a one dimensional fighter. All he's got is that left hook. He hasn't developed both hands. Like Deontay Wilder with his right. Maybe Derrick James can help him grow. But he's such a stagnant fighter for a kid with that much talent. I think that has way more to do with it, that he's constantly in his own way and it's irritating to see someone squander their career with lack of professionalism like he does constantly.
                    I think Garcia does it his own way and has instincts that give him the edge over the current crop. He isn't typical, and thus he isn't predictable. His speed is his biggest advantage, followed by his left hook.

                    He will improve in areas for sure. But I see a kid who is alot better naturally than most are with alot of work.

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                    • crimsonfalcon07
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee

                      I think Garcia does it his own way and has instincts that give him the edge over the current crop. He isn't typical, and thus he isn't predictable. His speed is his biggest advantage, followed by his left hook.

                      He will improve in areas for sure. But I see a kid who is alot better naturally than most are with alot of work.
                      You trolling? He's absolutely predictable. He hangs back trying to land that left hook, mostly using single shots or 2 punch combos. When he does, he swarms with his head exposed, and frequently smothers his work. He's predictably defensively irresponsible. When he's up against someone else he can't overwhelm with speed or who has power and timing, it goes like it did vs Tank. And it's going to keep going that way because he's absolutely predictable. Retreats in straight lines. Doesn't use head movement. Permeable static high guard, and one of the worst shoulder rolls in all of boxing. He's like the definition of a predictable fighter making his lack of technical prowess make it work with his speed and power in the left hook. Haney was the reverse, compensating for his lack of power with size and technique.

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