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As Heavyweight fans, are we better off or worse off NOW than we were 20 years ago?

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  • As Heavyweight fans, are we better off or worse off NOW than we were 20 years ago?

    Today April 2024. Vs. 20 yrs ago April 2004

    Oleksandr Usyk.............. Vitali Klitschko
    Tyson Fury...................... Chris Byrd
    Anthony Joshua............. John Ruiz
    Joseph Parker................. Hasim Rahman
    Zhilei Zhang.................... James Toney
    Filip Hrgovic.................... Monte Barrett
    Frank Sanchez................ Andrew Golota
    Jared Anderson.............. Fres Oquendo
    Joe Joyce....................... Jameel McCline
    Deontay Wilder................ Corrie Sanders
    Agit Kabayel.................... Lamon Brewster

    Source: The Ring Magazine​

  • #2
    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
    Today April 2024. Vs. 20 yrs ago April 2004

    Oleksandr Usyk.............. Vitali Klitschko
    Tyson Fury...................... Chris Byrd
    Anthony Joshua............. John Ruiz
    Joseph Parker................. Hasim Rahman
    Zhilei Zhang.................... James Toney
    Filip Hrgovic.................... Monte Barrett
    Frank Sanchez................ Andrew Golota
    Jared Anderson.............. Fres Oquendo
    Joe Joyce....................... Jameel McCline
    Deontay Wilder................ Corrie Sanders
    Agit Kabayel.................... Lamon Brewster

    Source: The Ring Magazine​
    From a talent stand point is close with the given names listed.

    But from an England's and China's fans view without a doubt 2024 is better.

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    • #3
      well vlad klit was worse off as in april 2004 he just got iced by lamon brewster

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      • #4
        20 years ago was a low point for HW boxing. The current guys are better overall.
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        • #5
          It's very common to hear fans complain that "This is a weak era of heavyweights".

          I never recall a time when the couch potatoes DIDN'T say that, including the time when Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Quarry, Lyle, Ellis, Shavers, Bonavena and Bugner populated the rankings, as though seeing two superior men in the ring brings out their jealousy or something.

          Looking closely at the 2024 vs. 2004 Ring lineups, man to man, I'm looking at the strong likelihood of a clean sweep.
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          • #6
            It's the same now as it was in the Klitschko era - the Klitschkos are just retired now, so any guy off the street can become champion.

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            • #7
              John Ruiz would have a serious shot at Undisputed today.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by paulf View Post
                It's the same now as it was in the Klitschko era - the Klitschkos are just retired now, so any guy off the street can become champion.
                Except for Francis Ngannou. He gets starched fast.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                  It's very common to hear fans complain that "This is a weak era of heavyweights".

                  I never recall a time when the couch potatoes DIDN'T say that, including the time when Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Quarry, Lyle, Ellis, Shavers, Bonavena and Bugner populated the rankings, as though seeing two superior men in the ring brings out their jealousy or something.

                  Looking closely at the 2024 vs. 2004 Ring lineups, man to man, I'm looking at the strong likelihood of a clean sweep.
                  A clean sweep? For who?

                  To my best recollections 2004 THEN vs 2024 now.

                  Today April 2024. Vs. 20 yrs ago April 2004

                  Oleksandr Usyk.............. Vitali Klitschko .....Vitali
                  Tyson Fury...................... Chris Byrd ... Fury
                  Anthony Joshua............. John Ruiz ... Joshua
                  Joseph Parker................. Hasim Rahman ... hard to call. I will say Rahman
                  Zhilei Zhang.................... James Toney .....Toney, but only because Zhang is 40, fat, and throws few punches.
                  Filip Hrgovic.................... Monte Barrett ... Hrgovic
                  Frank Sanchez................ Andrew Golota ... Sanchez
                  Jared Anderson.............. Fres Oquendo ... toss up. I will go with Anderson
                  Joe Joyce....................... Jameel McCline ... McCline
                  Deontay Wilder................ Corrie Sanders ... Sanders
                  Agit Kabayel.................... Lamon Brewster​ ... Brewster


                  2024 - 4

                  2004 - 6


                  Last edited by Dr. Z; 04-19-2024, 09:41 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                    A clean sweep? For who?

                    To my best recollections 2004 THEN vs 2024 now.

                    Today April 2024. Vs. 20 yrs ago April 2004

                    Oleksandr Usyk.............. Vitali Klitschko .....Vitali
                    Tyson Fury...................... Chris Byrd ... Fury
                    Anthony Joshua............. John Ruiz ... Joshua
                    Joseph Parker................. Hasim Rahman ... hard to call. I will say Rahman
                    Zhilei Zhang.................... James Toney .....Toney, but only because Zhang is 40, fat, and throws few punches.
                    Filip Hrgovic.................... Monte Barrett ... Hrgovic
                    Frank Sanchez................ Andrew Golota ... Sanchez
                    Jared Anderson.............. Fres Oquendo ... toss up. I will go with Anderson
                    Joe Joyce....................... Jameel McCline ... McCline
                    Deontay Wilder................ Corrie Sanders ... Sanders
                    Agit Kabayel.................... Lamon Brewster​ ... Brewster


                    2024 - 6

                    2004 - 4


                    Oh man, I was going to go straight across but then I started pairing them up entirely.

                    Because it's era vs era not man vs man, right?

                    What about like Joyce vs Byrd? I'm pretty sure Byrd takes Joyce the distance and teaches him a boxing lesson bro.

                    Like as sure I am Usyk takes Ruiz 12 and teaches him a boxing lesson.





                    I haven't worked out all the match ups and my opinions but I'd be super interested in anyone's in any pairing from the eras.

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