NSB PICK EM 2024: ROUND 1. PICK EM #33. SATURDAY 20th APRIL

[SceneBoxer]

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Garcia tricked damn near all of us.

[Tatabanya]

Garcia tricked damn near all of us.

Yes, but - lest we forget - he remains a cheater. This was Castillo vs Corrales II all over again, the difference being Corrales knocked out soon, and Haney taking a beating in the final third of a 12-round fight. Devin accepted 1,5 millions for becoming damaged goods, because that's what he is now.

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Yes, but - lest we forget - he remains a cheater. This was Castillo vs Corrales II all over again, the difference being Corrales knocked out soon, and Haney taking a beating in the final third of a 12-round fight. Devin accepted 1,5 millions for becoming damaged goods, because that's what he is now.

Oh no, I didn't forget; Garcia was easily @ full WW for a SLW fight. I read that he bet $20 million on himself.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Oh no, I didn't forget; Garcia was easily @ full WW for a SLW fight. I read that he bet $20 million on himself.

We acting like Haney doesn't rehydrate 20+ lbs for every fight? Weight bully finally fought on equal terms for the first time in his career. I don't buy the "Ryan was cheating for 3 lbs". He didn't lose because Ryan didn't bother to try to make weight. He lost because he drops his right hand when he jabs and failed repeatedly to avoid Ryan's ONE weapon. Bizarre. I really thought he would know about that hook and have a gameplan for it...

[Tatabanya]

We acting like Haney doesn't rehydrate 20+ lbs for every fight? Weight bully finally fought on equal terms for the first time in his career. I don't buy the "Ryan was cheating for 3 lbs". He didn't lose because Ryan didn't bother to try to make weight. He lost because he drops his right hand when he jabs and failed repeatedly to avoid Ryan's ONE weapon. Bizarre. I really thought he would know about that hook and have a gameplan for it...

Yes, Haney lost fair and square. But I do not approve weight bullying in general. Not from him, not from Garcia or anyone else for that matter. I still can't accept watching Arturo Gatti almost killing Joey Gamache after weight bullying him for two rounds.

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We acting like Haney doesn't rehydrate 20+ lbs for every fight? Weight bully finally fought on equal terms for the first time in his career. I don't buy the "Ryan was cheating for 3 lbs". He didn't lose because Ryan didn't bother to try to make weight. He lost because he drops his right hand when he jabs and failed repeatedly to avoid Ryan's ONE weapon. Bizarre. I really thought he would know about that hook and have a gameplan for it...

Be that as it may, there's a difference between the smaller guy who drained down to 140 and the bigger guy who didn't.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Be that as it may, there's a difference between the smaller guy who drained down to 140 and the bigger guy who didn't.

Ryan was expected to rehydrate to 160 after missing weight. Devin rehydrated to 165 for his fight with Prograis. It's pretty likely Devin weighed as much or more than Ryan in the ring on the night. There's the intangibles about whether or not he felt drained from making weight. But I'm a lot less interested in defending a habitual weight bully who regularly recovers 20+ pounds so he can fight smaller men. YMMV. I don't support weight cutting at all. I think it should be banned, and people should fight at their walking weights. But it's not like it's illegal to miss weight, and it meant that Ryan couldn't win the title.

[eco1]

My only issue with the pick em thread and I know it is not our fault here:

Boxing has become a business and not as sport.
I wanted to pick Ryan by decision but I said to myself: Haney has the judges on his side, money is on his side, meh, I'll go Haney. Before the fight I asked : What if Cryan actually KD's Haney and some people jumped at me, LOL.

Remember when I picked Mayer instead of the other one and then I found out mid fight that the fight was in the UK?
Even when Mayer won, I would've had a perfect pick if I would have know the fight was in the UK, LOL.

It is awesome to pick fights and have fun with you guys, you guys are all awesome!!!!

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Ryan was expected to rehydrate to 160 after missing weight. Devin rehydrated to 165 for his fight with Prograis. It's pretty likely Devin weighed as much or more than Ryan in the ring on the night. There's the intangibles about whether or not he felt drained from making weight. But I'm a lot less interested in defending a habitual weight bully who regularly recovers 20+ pounds so he can fight smaller men. YMMV. I don't support weight cutting at all. I think it should be banned, and people should fight at their walking weights. But it's not like it's illegal to miss weight, and it meant that Ryan couldn't win the title.

I find it hard to believe that Haney was the bigger man. Compared to him, Ryan is huge.