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  • Roberto Vasquez
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    #41
    Originally posted by Oregonian
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    How exactly did Floyd duck Canelo when he beat him?
    He’s also been accused of ducking Cotto, Hatton, Oscar, Mosley, and Guerrero after beating them. Your logic makes zero sense

    I looked up Fury’s rematch with Wlad so I bc will give you that. You are correct. For whatever reason, Fury chose not to honor the rematch.
    He beat NOVICE Canelo (his prev fight was Ricky Hatton's little bro!). Also made Canelo lose weight to fight him - and then even called Canelo ****** for agreeing to lose weight.

    Then a year or so later Canelo actually got good and wanted a rematch and Floyd refused.

    But please let's not talk about Floyd. Arguing with Floyd fans is like talking to true-believers.

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    • Oregonian
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      #42
      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

      He beat NOVICE Canelo (his prev fight was Ricky Hatton's little bro!). Also made Canelo lose weight to fight him - and then even called Canelo ****** for agreeing to lose weight.

      Then a year or so later Canelo actually got good and wanted a rematch and Floyd refused.

      But please let's not talk about Floyd. Arguing with Floyd fans is like talking to true-believers.
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      I recall Canelo asking for a rematch.

      All I’m going to say is Canelo offered to drop in weight since Floyd was a 147 fighter
      WBC junior middleweight champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (39-0-1, 29KOs) is willing to drop a few pounds to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs). Mayweather is the World Boxing Council's champion at 147-pounds. Alvarez has no problem facing Mayweather at a catch-weight of 150-pounds.

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      • Atypicalbrit
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        #43
        Usyk isn't good enough to beat the best version of fury.

        It's Fury's fight to lose, and he can lose it if he doesn't prepare correctly

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          #44
          Originally posted by Oregonian
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          I recall Canelo asking for a rematch.

          All I’m going to say is Canelo offered to drop in weight since Floyd was a 147 fighter
          WBC junior middleweight champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (39-0-1, 29KOs) is willing to drop a few pounds to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs). Mayweather is the World Boxing Council's champion at 147-pounds. Alvarez has no problem facing Mayweather at a catch-weight of 150-pounds.
          Yes he kept asking and kept getting turned down...

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          • Oregonian
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            #45
            Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

            Yes he kept asking and kept getting turned down...
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            And then he got the fight and got beat, didn’t he?

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            • Hmabshir
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              #46
              When Fury walks through Usyk, I wonder what this forum will say? Fury isn't AJ with a paper chin. he got hit hard by Wilder and still **** on him. Usyk punching power only affects AJ, not Wilder of Fury. Cant wait to make a massive bet on Fury by decision with multiple knockdowns!

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                #47
                Originally posted by Hmabshir
                When Fury walks through Usyk, I wonder what this forum will say? Fury isn't AJ with a paper chin. he got hit hard by Wilder and still **** on him. Usyk punching power only affects AJ, not Wilder of Fury. Cant wait to make a massive bet on Fury by decision with multiple knockdowns!
                Usyk doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Wilder but what Usyk does is hit a lot more accurately, a lot more often than Wilder, with shots that the opponent doesn't see coming.

                I'm not concerned about Fury's chin but I am concerned about his mentality after the Ngannou fight.

                Fury won't walk through Usyk, I do think Fury can win, if he's at his best, by making the ring small, not giving Usyk any room to breathe, and making Usyk think "how do I get this big lump off of me" so he doesn't have time to think about setting any of his fancy traps up.

                But Fury is going to get lit up in points in this fight, he's going to have to eat flush combinations that WILL sting and he might even get dropped by Usyk, maybe even more than once.

                He's going to have to go all in on using his size and try and grind Usyk down by smothering, chipping away on the inside, and bet on him being able to take more of Usyks shots than Usyk can take of his.

                I am not 100% convinced that Fury at this stage in his life has got it in him to fight a war of attrition like that, he looked like he lost interest in the Ngannou fight when it wasn't all going his way, if he has ANY part of his mind that's non committal in the ring vs Usyk he will LOSE.


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                • PRINCEKOOL
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Hmabshir
                  When Fury walks through Usyk, I wonder what this forum will say? Fury isn't AJ with a paper chin. he got hit hard by Wilder and still **** on him. Usyk punching power only affects AJ, not Wilder of Fury. Cant wait to make a massive bet on Fury by decision with multiple knockdowns!
                  If Tyson Fury's game plan is to just wade forward vs Oleksandr Usyk 'Then Fury will potentially be all over the place in this fight. Fury is a innately extremely clumsy fighter, who is not as technically correct and fundamentally sound as Joshua'.

                  Wladimir Kiltschko was a more proven power puncher than Deontay Wilder 'Wladimir Kiltschko's power punch which decked Anthony Joshua, for me was a more technically sophisticated and devastating punch than anything Wilder has ever landed on Tyson Fury'.

                  Anthony Joshua has statistically fought a higher number of top level Heavyweight fighters than Tyson Fury 'Still Fury has been decked a higher number of times, by quite a distance'.

                  Note: Tyson Fury has been ****** about and beaten up, at every single level in the sport 'Domestic, European and World level'. Of course Tyson Fury has the ability to make this fight competitive, but I don't think he has been showing the form to just wade forward against Usyk when they fight.

                  Oleksandr Uysk has been fighting and beating physically stronger, more powerful punchers than Tyson Fury during his Heavyweight reign 'Both Joshua and Dubois have greater brute strength than Fury, and they are superior power punchers' etc.

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                  • HandsofIron
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                    #49
                    I think this fight will go down like the USS Cunningham fight, former Cruiserweight Usyk got the skills but not the size for Fury.

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                    • Roberto Vasquez
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Oregonian
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                      And then he got the fight and got beat, didn’t he?
                      Canelo only fought Floyd once dude. There was a reason he didn't get the rematch once he got good. Not hard to figure out...

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