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  • #81
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
    Boots has no resume and has been plagued by inactivity. Maybe that's down to his promoter. We'll see. But there's 20 guys that have been in the top 10 in the last two years, and he's fought ONE. He doesn't sell yet. No need to play the blame game.

    If Bud is going to fight a younger skilled fighter who's not going to increase the sales, it makes ZERO sense to do it for a belt he already won and didn't lose in the ring. I'd much rather see him fight for the WBO 154 or take on Madrimov for the WBA if Fundora is going to be out for 6 months and Jermell is going to be a chickens**t, and get that chance at joining the 4 division champs.

    He doesn't get anything for beating Ennis. Just the belt he's already got hanging in his house, and I guarantee most people will be saying Ennis was a hypejob with no resume, or that Bud took him on while he was still green. Ennis isn't a longstanding champion with good wins who will be relevant on a resume. Even if he becomes great later, Bud'll still get the same crap Mayweather gets for fighting Canelo when the latter was young and green.

    And FOH with "but eYe TeSt". Yeah, he looks to have skills and power, but he HAS. NO. RESUME. And he's already avoided opportunities to fight both Bud and Spence. He can F right off and maybe he can start building his own legacy. Maybe.
    Who cared. Boots is a champion and a top 5 WW. If this was the UFC, Crawford and Boots would have fought two times already. Only in boxing do fans care about whether a fighter "deserves" something

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    • #82
      Floyd at 37 fought a 22 year old Canelo at LMW.

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      • #83
        Boots refused to fight Bud twice
        When he was in line to become mando , to Bud , he decided to go another route

        But Bud is avoiding Boots
        Lmfao
        Boots hasn’t mentioned Bud’s name since the call off of the rematch

        I wonder why
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        • #84
          Originally posted by super-x View Post
          Floyd at 37 fought a 22 year old Canelo at LMW.
          By the time Canelo fought Floyd he already had the WBC, WBA (Regular), and Ring Magazine belts and wins over Miguel Vazquez (twice), Carlos Baldomir, Lovemore N'dou, Matthew Hatton, Kermit Cintron, Shane Mosley, Josesito Lopez, and Austin Trout.

          Boots has a belt Crawford vacated and a win over Sergey Lipinets.

          Not even close to comparable.
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          • #85
            Originally posted by ptek View Post

            You obviously don't realize how much bread this Saudi prince has.

            Nobody can keep up finance wise.

            You can forget about Uncle Al throwing a spaner in the works or any past repeats your hoping for.

            Everyone and anyone who wants a huge paycheck in the boxing game will want that type of pay package 100% hands down.

            That B level Euro your talking about is the WBA 154lb champ.

            So dont sound to B level to me.
            Who gives a fuq how much money that guy has you silly motha fuqua. I'm in America where billionaires grow on trees around here champ. And that guy isn't even personally that rich but he is backed by the Saudi govt and their oil money. Yes that guy is a B level Euro champ just like historically most Euro champs are B level compared to North American boxers you idiot. And if everyone wanted a huge paycheck then why haven't they all flocked over to the middle east to sign with him. Perhaps because most of them stand on principle and are unwilling to do business with a guy backed by a government that sponsored the 19 ********* to fly planes into the twin towers and still haven't accepted responsibility for their actions. Dumb azz.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by ptek View Post

              Madrimov is a way heavier challenge than Boots hands down, all day every day.

              Madrimov actually won his tittle in the ring, unlike Jaron Boots Ennis the email chump.

              And Madrimov has the balls to actually accepted the fight, unlike your boy Boots.

              Boots ain't even calling for that fight, his lame ass fake ass weak soft like ice cream fan girls are. Lol

              Nobody can hear Boot's, can you ???. Lol

              Quite as a church mouse. Lol
              I swear I could not remember the name of that poster that told all of us a few months ago that he just stated watching boxing in 2006 when Pacman jumped on the scene. Welp I just found the rheetard. Your boy Madrimov is what we Americans like to refer to as a flash in the pan. Here today gone tomorrow. He is your typical Euro bum that stumbled upon a belt and will have it savagely and viciously removed off of him when the Americans come looking for it. And you're 100% right that no one is calling Madrimov's name. Like no one. You know why? Because no one knows him. He is just another Eurobum that his promoter (whomever that is) is going to use to entice Al Haymon to make a fight so they can cash him out against a PBC fighter. Man I can't believe the level of ******ity that traverses this website.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

                I thought the narrative was that Bud doesn't sell. Which is it? He's a cash cow and everyone wants to fight him, or he doesn't sell so there's no payday?

                That being said, yes, there's a lot of fights at PBC. But he doubtless likes being a free agent.
                Is "Bud doesn't sell" a narrative or proven fact. Remember it was Bob Arum who said "I could have bought a house in Malibu for all the money I lost on Bud". Al Haymon didn't say that. Bud sued Arum, not Al, because he felt as though Top Rank held him back financially. So no he might not be the cash cow that he thinks he should be but he can make boatloads of money ending his career at PBC while giving the boxing fans what we want to see out of him. But if he prefers to not sign and just remain a free agent the Gawd bless him. Just stop stringing us along and go finish your career in Saudi continuing to fight B and C level Euros. Who da fuq cares.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

                  I'm not talking about how many potential opponents Crawford has. I'm talking about how many fights he will take at this point in his career. He'll be 37 in 5 months. I'm sure he's looking for the biggest paydays in the time that he has left in the sport. Just listen to his post-fight interview vs Spence. Of all of those on your list, Fundora and Tszyu will bring big revenue. Interest in Spence II might be there, but that beat down in the first fight leaves little to the imagination. Thurman is done, DSG is all but done, Lara is old and not much of a draw, Lubin, forget it, Jermell, lol, Boots, too young and high-risk. One fight that Bud would jump at is vs Canelo, who's not on your list. Now, If Red would give Bud a fight for enough cash, BOOM! That would be it, he'd take the money and run, win, lose or draw, imo.
                  I think you and I might be talking around each other my watery friend. I gave you a list of 8-9 fighters at 154 that he can choose to end his career with. No I do not think he'll fight all nine of them. But if he signed with PBC and fought 4-5 over the next few years then that would be wayyyy more satisfying than watching him figh unheard of fighters in Saudi for no doubt big money for himself but catastrophic financial losses for the freaky Sheiki!

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Sheldon312 View Post

                    Who cared. Boots is a champion and a top 5 WW. If this was the UFC, Crawford and Boots would have fought two times already. Only in boxing do fans care about whether a fighter "deserves" something
                    That's nonsense. Legitimately nonsense. How did Ennis get that belt? Who did he beat for it?

                    How many top 5 opponents has he fought?

                    And you have got to be joking me with your UFC crap. Rankings are irrelevant in the UFC. You get a title shot in the UFC if Dana White wants you to.

                    How many people has Makhachev defended against who were actually from his own division?

                    How about Alex Pereira. How did he earn any of his title shots? How many wrestlers has he fought?

                    Who did Jon Jones beat to get his title? Oh yeah, the guy who already got crushed by Ngannou with one leg and his worst skill (which is Jones' best). Who is he fighting next? The guy that Ngannou knocked out 4 years ago, who hasn't had a fight in 3 years, let alone a win. Is he defending against the interim champion?

                    That's literally just off the top of my head from recent history. There's more examples of UFC champions NOT fighting top opponents than there are people who did. And all the guys who did, have been knocked out recently.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by DClefthook View Post

                      I swear I could not remember the name of that poster that told all of us a few months ago that he just stated watching boxing in 2006 when Pacman jumped on the scene. Welp I just found the rheetard. Your boy Madrimov is what we Americans like to refer to as a flash in the pan. Here today gone tomorrow. He is your typical Euro bum that stumbled upon a belt and will have it savagely and viciously removed off of him when the Americans come looking for it. And you're 100% right that no one is calling Madrimov's name. Like no one. You know why? Because no one knows him. He is just another Eurobum that his promoter (whomever that is) is going to use to entice Al Haymon to make a fight so they can cash him out against a PBC fighter. Man I can't believe the level of ******ity that traverses this website.
                      Whats being reported is the Saudi's fronting , an interested in crawfords vs Madrimov. That's oil money up against PBC money.

                      I'll take my chances and go with the Saudi's calling all the shots here.

                      I said Nobody is calling for the boots fight accept the foolish, which are the fake ass Boots bum boys. That's what said.
                      Last edited by ptek; 04-09-2024, 08:44 PM.

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