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  • #21
    Mares fouled the shit out of Joseph Agbeko in their fight concentrating mostly on low blows and I believe Lawrence Cole was the ref, he just let it happen.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by PunchMeIDareYou View Post
      Golota-Bowe
      I'm going with Golota vs Anybody.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

        Well, yeah because it's even less
        Whats the matter, your first excuse wasn't convincing enough.

        "Probably like 5 times a round on average if I had to guess."

        Stick to this and stop backtracking.

        By your guestimation, you said 5 clinches a round, which is 60 holds over 12 rounds for Holdweather.

        That's an awful lot of holding there.
        Last edited by djtmal; 04-09-2024, 04:06 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post



          There are Muhammad Ali fights, Mike Tyson fights, Wlad Klitschko, Andre Ward, Lennox Lewis, Ezzard Charles, Sammy Angot, Sandy Saddler, Hopkins etc all fighters who do excessively clinch where you could probably find single rounds where they cliched more than Floyd did in 6 or more combined rounds of that fight. That is excessive holding.
          Anything to excuse Floyd Mayweather from the wrath of criticism

          It's all on audio/video. Boxing fans/critics all over the world criticized Floyd Mayweather for excessive holding, but you the caped crusader is gonna rescue him with your guestimated clinchstats

          "Probably like 5 times a round on average if I had to guess."
          Last edited by djtmal; 04-09-2024, 04:19 PM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by djtmal View Post

            Whats the matter, your first excuse wasn't convincing enough.

            "Probably like 5 times a round on average if I had to guess."

            Stick to this and stop backtracking.

            By your guestimation, you said 5 clinches a round, which is 60 holds over 12 rounds for Holdweather.

            That's an awful lot of holding there.
            What excuse? Where is there an excuse being used and excuse for what?

            I said it was probably like 5 times a round on average if I had to guess, because I know it's low because he didn't hold often in that fight. Key words being "Probably" and "Guess". Turns out it was actually much less than I'd guessed.

            Anyway, I've rewatched the fight and here are the numbers for clinches;

            Round 1 - 1

            Round 2 - 4

            Round 3 - 4

            Round 4 - 1

            Round 5 - 3

            Round 6 - 3

            Round 7 - 2

            Round 8 - 0

            Round 9 - 2

            Round 10 - 1

            Round 11 - 1

            Round 12 - 2

            Total - 24

            Average - 2 times per round

            So in this fight Mayweather held a total of 24 times for an average of 2 times per round. That is objectively not excessive clinching it's actually the opposite of excessive clinching.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by djtmal View Post

              Anything to excuse Floyd Mayweather from the wrath of criticism

              It's all on audio/video. Boxing fans/critics all over the world criticized Floyd Mayweather for excessive holding, but you the caped crusader is gonna rescue him with your guestimated clinchstats
              Or, you know, just objective numbers. Those pesky facts

              What critic criticized Floyd for holding in that fight?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                What excuse? Where is there an excuse being used and excuse for what?

                I said it was probably like 5 times a round on average if I had to guess, because I know it's low because he didn't hold often in that fight. Key words being "Probably" and "Guess". Turns out it was actually much less than I'd guessed.

                Anyway, I've rewatched the fight and here are the numbers for clinches;

                Round 1 - 1

                Round 2 - 4

                Round 3 - 4

                Round 4 - 1

                Round 5 - 3

                Round 6 - 3

                Round 7 - 2

                Round 8 - 0

                Round 9 - 2

                Round 10 - 1

                Round 11 - 1

                Round 12 - 2

                Total - 24

                Average - 2 times per round

                So in this fight Mayweather held a total of 24 times for an average of 2 times per round. That is objectively not excessive clinching it's actually the opposite of excessive clinching.


                Lol. You say Floyd Mayweather is guilty of something, and it gets these Floyd boys full attention.

                Just had to rescue your boy.

                Took it to the videotape

                Now do the same thing for the other fights/fighters mentioned.
                Last edited by djtmal; 04-09-2024, 04:33 PM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                  Key words being "Probably" and "Guess".
                  Guess what. Floyd is probably guilty of excessive holding too

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                    Or, you know, just objective numbers. Those pesky facts
                    Please you a biased Floyd Boy you watching a Floyd fight with rose colored glasses.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by djtmal View Post



                      Lol. You say Floyd Mayweather is guilty of something, and it gets these Floyd boys full attention.

                      Just had to rescue your boy.

                      Took it to the videotape

                      Now do the same thing for the other fights/fighters mentioned.
                      Well, yeah, because it's incorrect.

                      Which fight should I do? Wlad-Povektin? Because that was a fight with overt excessive clinching.

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