What are some fights where legendary fighters heavily fouled.

[IronDanHamza]

Please you a biased Floyd Boy you watching a Floyd fight with rose colored glasses.

Oh so what, the number isn't 24?

Why don't you tell me how many times he held in that fight if it's not 24 (Which it is)

Why don't you just admit you were wrong? 24 clinches in a 12 round fight for an average of 2 clinches a round is not excessive clinching that's just an objective fact.

[djtmal]

Why don't you just admit you were wrong?

Wrong about what.

If Floyd excessively held in the Pacquiao and Madonna 2 fights imo, that's what it is.

You said Floyd held 60x

Manny Pacquaio held 0

[djtmal]

Oh so what, the number isn't 24?

You said 5 per round which is 60x

[tophat1]

Marciano from the limited bits ive seen of him. He should have been disqualified in his fight with Don ****rell.

Andre ward was dirty as hell, he even had bika complaining about fouls and he was one of the sports roughest fighters himself

B hops headbutting was shocking

[djtmal]

Oh so what, the number isn't 24?

Why don't you tell me how many times he held in that fight if it's not 24 (Which it is)
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No you the excuse making know it all Floyd boy

You guestimated 5 holds per round which is 60 total, which you said wasn't excessive compared to the fights in the thread starter, then got cold feet and wanted to backtrack because it wasn't gonna fly.

Now I guess Floyd only had a half a hold per round.

[IronDanHamza]

Wrong about what.

If Floyd excessively held in the Pacquiao and Madonna 2 fights imo, that's what it is.

You said Floyd held 60x

Manny Pacquaio held 0

So you're saying holding 24 times in a 12 round fight for an average of 2 times a round is excessive clinching?

Because, it's not.

[IronDanHamza]

You said 5 per round which is 60x

No, I didn't. I guessed it was probably around 5 a round on average (which is low) because I know he didn't hold much in that fight.

After counting them, the number is 24 so on average 2 times per round.

[IronDanHamza]

No you the excuse making know it all Floyd boy

You guestimated 5 holds per round which is 60 total, which you said wasn't excessive compared to the fights in the thread starter, then got cold feet and wanted to backtrack because it wasn't gonna fly.

Now I guess Floyd only had a half a hold per round.

What excuse? And excuse for what? You keep talking about excuses, do you know what the word excuse means? Where am I making an excuse and what am I making an excuse for?

Right, I guessed at 5 on average and said it wasn't excessive because 5 a round on average isn't excessive, it's low.

I didn't get cold feet for anything I did what's called gathering evidence By going and actually counting the number of clinches so guess work isn't needed and we can get the actual exact number, which is 24, in a 12 round fight, which is objectively not excessive clinching.

I don't know how I can make that easier to understand.

[IronDanHamza]

For context to anyone interested, Wlad held Povektin 14 times in ROUND 1 of their fight alone Over half the amount Floyd held Pacquaio in 12rounds.

Then 11 times in round 2.

That's 25 times in 2 rounds, more than Floyd did in 12 rounds vs Pacquaio.

That is an example of excessive clinching.

[djtmal]

No, I didn't. .

"Probably like 5 times a round on average if I had to guess."

60 holds total we going by your guestimation