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  • #11
    I've never watched any Tyson, Monzon, Valero, Bowe, Mayweather, LaMotta or Shaukur Stevenson fights. Any misogyny or hitting women and I boycott you. It makes my knowledge of the sport very patchy but at least I have a feeling of moral superiority. I have always been this way btw and not just saying it now because it's more fashionable.

    I never saw Corrales-Castillo because DC hit his pregnant wife, it probably wasn't that entertaining though right? Wlad was always such a gentleman so I just watch his boring fights over and over.

    I am surprised that somebody who works as a boxing journalist will never watch Shakur's last fight. Boxing is your job. Surely you'd always want to understand the sport and each fighter as deeply as possible. What if you have to write about Stevenson in the future? Don't you want to be as familiar as possible with your subject? For me Shakur is super talented and super skilled but it is notable that he doesn't seem to have improved certain elements of his game, he's still not a great counter puncher despite seemingly having the qualities to be one, he doesn't look that comfortable under fire. He may still be an ATG in the making but there is reason to think he might have problems vs certain styles. Even if he was sick for his last fight, he had a similar performance the last time he faced a guy who was limited but had a big right hand. When considering how SS would do vs Haney or Loma, don't you think seeing his last fight but help inform you, even if only in a small way? But this stuff is not interesting to everybody so another Jake Paul article is just as good.

    Jake Paul of course is accused of ****, but the site spammed articles about him anyway. The journalist who wrote this article also covered Paul's last fight, where's the consistency there? I can respect if it's an 'innocent until proven guilty' thing but then again Paulie and Broner weren't proven guilty either and you boycotted them? Isn't being an accused rapist worse than being an accused woman-puncher on the moral high ground misogyny scale?

    Not to read too much into something small but a boxing journalist not watching a fight is quite symbolic to me of how bad boxing journalism is these days. Not even watching the sport you cover ffs. Fewer and fewer articles that add to your knowledge or understanding of the sport, and more and more articles trying to generate clicks. Headlines about people calling each other out, even though they have no intention of fighting. An interview somebody gave last month chopped into 5 different articles across a week. Boxing journalists are lowering their own standards so much it won't be long before AI replaces them, AI can copy and paste social media call outs even quicker than a human.

    The sad truth is that boxing is the most corrupt mainstream sport. The boxing media enables this, they want access to the top promoters and fighters and so just avoid anything that could piss them off even when there is blatant corruption. Look at that fight last night, a clear robbery but this site headline says 'debateable decision'. The boxing media could see a boxer pull out a gun and shoot his opponent dead and still only report 'rumours of a car exhaust backfiring'. The Ring is owned by GBP. This site and Showtime had the same parent company until recently. It's like asking the worst-behaved kid in class to mark his own homework.

    TL: DR: Moral high ground in boxing =
    Last edited by Clegg; 04-07-2024, 11:52 AM.

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    • #12
      Any Audley Harrison fight could make the list.

      During one of his fights, my friend and I began hitting each other in the face for our own entertainment. It was THAT bad!

      Everyone in the pub actually began watching us rather than old Fraudley.

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      • #13
        I'd put most Chris Byrd fights , and ALL John Ruiz fights , except the one against Roy Jones Jr. There are a bunch of Bernard Hopkins fights that I'd add, and Malignaggi and Sergio Mora both had plenty of snoozers. Chad Dawson is another one in plenty of snoozefests.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Joseph View Post
          Good timing after last night’s performance from Hitchens, but one thing stood out for me, and that was him forgiving Shakur for stinking up the joint in the De Los Santos fight, and not vice versa. At least De Los Santos TRIED to make it exciting: Shakur did nothing of the sort.
          Now that you mention it, that was my first thought when I read that part too.

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          • #15
            Joseph Agbeko versus Guillermo Rigondeaux. Saw that one live. Incredibly painful. Rigo had more than his fair share of stinkers. Him and Casimero was a matchup of the incapable versus the unwilling.

            Fury and Klitschko was terrible, I remember I started folding clothes because I was so bored.

            Any John Ruiz fight pretty much could cure insomnia. Adrien Broner became pretty unwatchable towards the end. He'd throw about half a dozen punches a round but his chin was sturdy enough that his opponent couldn't put him out of his (and my) misery.

            There are plenty more that I can't remember and that's kind of the point...

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            • #16
              It seems strange to me that people won't watch certain fighters because they hit women etc, seriously Boxing is a sport where two contestants hit one another you are bound to get violent people in the sport and when they are making weight this will be even more so as this makes fighters more edgy. Also just because violence isn't reported it does not mean it's not happening so inadvertently you are probably watching someone who has hit a woman or been misogynistic anyway.

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              • #17
                ****** & unpleasant article. Boxing is a blood sport & bad things happen. The participants suffer a lot more than any viewer, sometimes their suffering is life-long. I remember one of the best fights I've seen was Dokes v Holyfield. My god that was war! A little later Dokes was pulverised by Razor Ruddock. Still later what remained of Michael Dokes was fed to Rid**** Bowe. A few years after that Dokes badly beat a 'crack ho' in a crack-house & went to nick. All I saw on here was posters fulminating about what an evil man he must be & how he deserved the maximum sentence possible. No-one pointed out that Michael had always been respectful, gallant & charming to women & that his appalling behaviour was a result of all the brain trauma he suffered entertaining US!

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                • #18
                  'Any Audley Harrison fight could make the list.During one of his fights, my friend and I began hitting each other in the face for our own entertainment. It was THAT bad!
                  Everyone in the pub actually began watching us rather than old Fraudley.​'

                  I had it the other way round. After swimming I went into the Magpies, which was a horrible pub with a strong BNP element, & Vargas v Mayorga was on the TV. Around R3 this wild, unseemly & entirely unskilled brawl broke out at a table next to me. They didn't like it when I asked them to tone it down so I could watch the people who actually knew how to fight .

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by PittyPat View Post
                    Sprott–Skelton is the worst fight I've ever seen.
                    Garcia–Salka is the most inexcusible, disgusting mismatch I've ever seen.
                    Good choice with Sprott/Skelton. But what about Wlad/Povetkin? Or maybe even worse, Wlad/Ibragimov.

                    I get chills watching those 2 fights. And not for the right reasons either.
                    MusoMeanderings MusoMeanderings likes this.

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                    • #20
                      Worst fights I've ever seen would be between Horace Notice v Funso Banjo & Johnny Nelson v Carlos De Leon. The latter was, at least, enlivened by the chat between Jim Watt & Reg Gutteridge, which included Gutteridge saying it was the only fight he'd ever seen that should be stopped to save the crowd from further punishment & Gutteridge saying he had no idea how you could score it, to which Watt instantly replied 'just, please God, don't order a rematch'.

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