Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Holmes & Holyfield, Tszyu's Cut, Crawford's Future And The Perfect Fighting Machine

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  • Cyborg Fangerloo
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    #11
    Originally posted by THC
    I'd put Loma with the fastest footwork.

    Holyfield's accomplishments, I would respect more than Holmes', but like another poster mentioned, it's also tainted by Evan Fields.

    Guys who abuse refs not penalizing fouls, e.g. Hopkins, Ward, Camacho. Cheating because you can, that's a big turn off for me.
    I completely agree. It takes skill and practice to know where the ref is in the ring to know what you can hide from him - so what! Watching Andre Ward was infuriating to me. You are breaking the rules yet good enough to hide it. That is gross.

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    • anonymous2.0
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      #12
      I didn't know Rolly was up on a scorecard by the time of the stoppage. Someone must be investing money on the Rolly train which is pretty dumb because Rolly is pretty bad with an average chin

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      • THC
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        #13
        Originally posted by Cyborg Fangerloo
        Watching Andre Ward was infuriating to me.
        The Kessler fight especially. Aside from the clinch-fest, Ward denied the head butts in the post-fight interview, but a replay monitor clearly contradicted him. Lost me as a fan after that. The ref too. Atrocious.

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        • 1Eriugenus
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          #14
          Sad to say, I disagree with almost all Bread's choices

          Boxing IQ: Floyd Mayweather


          Jab: Sonny Liston

          Left Hook: Ruben Olivares or Joe Frazier

          Right Cross: Thomas Hearns, goodnight every time

          Body Shots: Mike McCallum or Julio Caesar Chavez but agree with Mark Elding's comment above

          Chin: Matthew Saad Mohammed or Carl Froch. Yes George Chuvalo took punches well but he didn't come back & win, Matthew & Carl did.

          Hand Speed: Sugar Ray Leonard shades Meldrick Taylor because his punches hurt more

          Foot Speed : Muhammad Ali, danced like a butterfly, nuff said

          Endurance: Henry Armstrong by a country mile

          Defense: Niccolino Locce, almost untouchable even when he took a smoke break between rounds (no joke, he did that)

          Showmanship: Ali or Tyson Fury. Like him or not TF makes more headlines scratching himself than poor old AJ makes headlining a bill.

          DOG: I'd say Rocky Marciano but I couldn't argue with Evander Holyfield.

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            #15
            Originally posted by THC
            I'd put Loma with the fastest footwork.

            Holyfield's accomplishments, I would respect more than Holmes', but like another poster mentioned, it's also tainted by Evan Fields.

            Guys who abuse refs not penalizing fouls, e.g. Hopkins, Ward, Camacho. Cheating because you can, that's a big turn off for me.
            Salvador Sanchez for footwork. Loma is a flash in the pan.

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            • THC
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              #16
              Originally posted by Corelone
              Salvador Sanchez for footwork. Loma is a flash in the pan.
              Cannot argue with your choice of Sanchez because his feet were always in position.

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              • Corelone
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                #17
                Sanchez wasn't pretty or float like a butterfly. He was more like a pack of wild Indians surrounding the wagon train.

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                • Corelone
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                  #18
                  Who boxed better, Salvador or Floyd? I never complained about Salvador playing it safe.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by THC
                    The Kessler fight especially. Aside from the clinch-fest, Ward denied the head butts in the post-fight interview, but a replay monitor clearly contradicted him. Lost me as a fan after that. The ref too. Atrocious.
                    Take the head clashes out of it and Ward was brilliant in the Kessler fight. He just undeniably was.

                    Andre Dirrell out-finessed and out skilled Carl Froch yet still came up short somehow, because of a supposed lack of physicality. So when Andre Ward brought the physicality don’t start crying about it, then.






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                    • THC
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Take the head clashes out of it and Ward was brilliant in the Kessler fight. He just undeniably was.
                      I respective your perspective but we probably have different definitions of boxing brilliance.

                       

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