Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Holmes & Holyfield, Tszyu's Cut, Crawford's Future And The Perfect Fighting Machine

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  • Theshotyoudontsee
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    #21
    Originally posted by THC
    I respective your perspective but we probably have different definitions of boxing brilliance.
    LOL. Ward was just awful.

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    • The D3vil
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      #22
      Originally posted by wrecksracer
      I like Holyfield, but Evan Fields grew into the Heavyweight division in a su****ious manner. Everybody knows he had "help." As much as I enjoyed watching him fight, it's hard to place him in a historical context.
      This.

      I respect Bread, but he can't always be talking about PEDs when it comes to Canelo & other dudes while ignoring that one of his favorite fighters Evander Holyfield literally got caught by ESPN.

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        #23
        Here’s mine :

        Boxing IQ: Floyd Mayweather Jr.
        Jab: Larry Holmes
        Left hook: Tommy Morrison
        Right cross: Tommy Hearns
        Body shots: Roberto Duran
        Chin: George Chuvalo
        hand/foot speed: Roy Jones Jr.
        Endurance: Salvador Sanchez
        Defense: Willie Pep
        Showmanship: Muhammad Ali
        DOG: Muhammad Ali

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        • Roadblock
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          #24
          Holmes did take it easy on Ali, yeah he belted him but Ali when he was dead meat on the ropes Holmes held back, wanting the ref to call it, he could have beat him down to the floor if he wanted to as Ali had nothing left he was a bag, it was sad to see.

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          • Mark Elding
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            #25
            Originally posted by Corelone

            Salvador Sanchez for footwork. Loma is a flash in the pan.
            Lomachenko’s one of the most sophisticated technicians the sport’s ever seen, but has also challenged himself to a greater extent than anyone else of his era.

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            • THC
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              #26
              Originally posted by Roadblock
              Holmes did take it easy on Ali, yeah he belted him but Ali when he was dead meat on the ropes Holmes held back, wanting the ref to call it, he could have beat him down to the floor if he wanted to as Ali had nothing left he was a bag, it was sad to see.
              With Ali helpess against the ropes, I remember Holmes turning to the ref, almost cussing at the third man to stop the beating. That fight was more sobering than the jubilation I felt after Ali-Frazier I.

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                #27
                Originally posted by THC
                With Ali helpess against the ropes, I remember Holmes turning to the ref, almost cussing at the third man to stop the beating. That fight was more sobering than the jubilation I felt after Ali-Frazier I.
                Thats the way I remember it, you could see Holmes going easy I don't know what Breads on about there.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Mark Elding

                  Lomachenko’s one of the most sophisticated technicians the sport’s ever seen, but has also challenged himself to a greater extent than anyone else of his era.
                  I think Sal Sanchez would have knocked Lomachenko out.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by THC
                    I respective your perspective but we probably have different definitions of boxing brilliance.
                    Ward fought great against Kessler, that can’t be taken away from him.


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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Clegg
                      You can see why Tyson was frustrated...

                      He was a very dirty fighter and it’s a shame one of the best refs in Mills Lane didn’t hit him with multiple points for repeated low blows and constant intentional head butts. While the bite was a travesty, without context you’d never know what Holyfield was doing to have deserved the reaction from Mike.

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