Top Rank should stop babying thier fighters.

[PensionKiller]

How many fighters have a better resume than Cotto? Not many. He can't be questioned as a cherry picker, even though he lets Bob Arum do all the work while he trains and just fights.

Manny is the same really.

Bob picks the right fights for his fighters, and if they are good enoguh, he will let them face bigger, riskier names.

There are lots of fighters from every company that get babied.

GBP don't baby their fighters but look at what has happened to them.

Most promotional companies baby fighters to make money. Only true greats and sometimes smaller ones let their fighter take on all comers.

Bob is a smart man at using his own fighters to help build the resume of his top guys and to win belts.

[Iceta]

You have to be kidding.

seriously man, when it comes to Cotto, I don't know if you really don't like him or if you're just misinformed, but you are always wrong.

In Cotto's 14th fight he fought Cesar Bezan for gods sake.

At 140 he fought Bezan, John Brown even earlier than that, who isn't good but is tough as nails. Maussa, Sosa, Pinto, N'Dou, Bailey, Corley, Torres, Abdulaev, Malignaggi.

That is not babying a fighter, that is bringing up a fighter how you SHOULD bring up a fighter. Who cares if they're punchers, are you serious? So if they arent punchers they aren't threats?

And than his resume at WW is as solid as they come.

Cotto was in no way babied. End of story.

Arum had Cotto fighting all those guys until he finally stepped up to the A league in Shane Mosley. Those guys are slightly above average fighters. Nothing special. Maussa, Pinto, Bezan (Victor Ortiz showed how great he was and he lost to Castillo) and Abdulaev are garbage. N'dou, Bailey (He sucks now) Corley (Always loses when he steps up, even to Witter for god sakes), and Torres (What's he done lately?) are B- gatekeepers. Don't try to sell me those guys as good opponents.

[Kevin Jesus]

HBO is doing nothing wrong.

If Bob Arum wants his fights aired on HBO then he should make fights like Lopez vs Gamboa, Lopez-Caballero, Gamboa-John not Lopez vs [journeyman], Gamboa vs [journeyman].

[savorduhflavor]

Arum had Cotto fighting all those guys until he finally stepped up to the A league in Shane Mosley. Those guys are slightly above average fighters. Nothing special. Maussa, Pinto, and Abdulaev are garbage. N'dou, Bailey (He sucks now) Corley (Always loses when he steps up, even to Witter for god sakes), and Torres (What's he done lately?) are B- gatekeepers. Don't try to sell me those guys as good opponents.

They're good opponents coming up. Very good opponents coming up. You were ****ting on his resume coming up. When he was fighting these guys people were not saying the same thing about his opposition as they are Juanma's.

[Iceta]

They're good opponents coming up. Very good opponents coming up. You were ****ting on his resume coming up. When he was fighting these guys people were not saying the same thing about his opposition as they are Juanma's.

Look, I'm not saying they are horrible opponents but I've seen better. Cotto was stuck on on prospect level opponents until he finally stepped up to Shane Mosley. Were they as bad as Juan Ma's opponents? Of course not. But they were just nothing special either. That's my point.

[savorduhflavor]

Look, I'm not saying they are horrible opponents but I've seen better. Cotto was stuck on on prospect level opponents until he finally stepped up to Shane Mosley. Were they as bad as Juan Ma's opponents? Of course not. But they were just nothing special either. That's my point.

How would you rate Cotto's comp at 140 to Mosley's at 135?

[street bully]

How would you rate Cotto's comp at 140 to Mosley's at 135?

Mosley fought everybody he could at 135, and was without a doubt the best there. Cotto fought good opponents as well, but Mosley really earned his stripes man.

[warp1432]

Mosley fought everybody he could at 135, and was without a doubt the best there. Cotto fought good opponents as well, but Mosley really earned his stripes man.

Mosley did not fight Stevie Johnston, who was the next best by a long shot

[Iceta]

How would you rate Cotto's comp at 140 to Mosley's at 135?

Worse, because Cotto never became the champ of 140. Granted, I think Cotto would've beaten Hatton if the fight ever happened and Hatton never seemed to express a lot of interest in fighting him. But Arum seemed to always want to put Cotto in bull**** fights like with Gatti and Baldomir instead of focusing more on Hatton. Could you imagine the amount of stardom Cotto would've gotten for beating Hatton and becoming the man at 140? And 135 was pretty weak at the time Mosley ruled that division. I agree with that. I don't remember exactly who all was ranked in the top ten at 140 that Cotto could've fought besides the guys he did.

[savorduhflavor]

Worse, because Cotto never became the champ of 140. Granted, I think Cotto would've beaten Hatton if the fight ever happened and Hatton never seemed to express a lot of interest in fighting him. But Arum seemed to always want to put Cotto in bull**** fights like with Gatti and Baldomir instead of focusing more on Hatton. Could you imagine the amount of stardom Cotto would've gotten for beating Hatton and becoming the man at 140? And 135 was pretty weak at the time Mosley ruled that division. I agree with that. I don't remember exactly who all was ranked in the top ten at 140 that Cotto could've fought besides the guys he did.

Only others he could have fought were Floyd, Vivian Harris, Hatton, and Tszyu. But he was green when Tszyu was ruling. Floyd only made a pit stop there.

Cotto's resume at 140 is very comparable to Mosley's at 135. Just cause Mosley ruled the division doesn't mean his opposition was good.

Note: I really am not trying to hate on Shane's resume. Just proving a point that Cotto deserves zero criticism on his opposition coming up. If you held Mosley to the standards you hold Cotto to, than the first fighter Mosley faced that was above a B level fighter was Oscar....