Oscar Valdez vs Liam Wilson - ESPN+ - Figght By Fight Thread

[Sister Sledge]

Feel bad for Liam. Everyone called him a dummy.

[Regge]

All in all Liam’s a classy dude!

And how stupid is Kriegel to make such a comment? “Fight smarter next time!” Man, shut cho ass up! This man’s a fighter, he can do what he pleases.

Somebody really needs to check Kriegel because he tends to get beside himself as though he’s the fighter and/or trainer.

Well said wtf is Kriegel to tell a fighter what to do.

[Roadblock]

Good fight I thought the stoppage was a little premature, he was still punching was hurt but still in control of himself and maybe got out of the round.

[Feroz]

I honestly thought liam was on his way to winning then Valdez switched it up got inside and banged away.

That's the style that worked best for Valdez in the past, pressure his way to the pocket and land high output combination if you see his fights with Ruedas, Servania and Quigg.

It obvious it had it's own risks obviously, but it was more affective to win rounds than backpedaling being open to getting damaged and throwing low output punches at range which is just not as impactful nor as precise. He isn't a one punch knockout fighter either.

Not saying he should stop using his current style, but he should mix them up based on who he is fighting. A rangy fighter wasn't a smart idea to do it with nor with a pure boxer like Coincecao.

[kiaba360]

That's the style that worked best for Valdez in the past, pressure his way to the pocket and land high output combination if you see his fights with Ruedas, Servania and Quigg.

It obvious it had it's own risks obviously, but it was more affective to win rounds than backpedaling being open to getting damaged and throwing low output punches at range which is just not as impactful nor as precise. He isn't a one punch knockout fighter either.

Not saying he should stop using his current style, but he should mix them up based on who he is fighting. A rangy fighter wasn't a smart idea to do it with nor with a pure boxer like Coincecao.

Difference is that this time Valdez didn't have to close distance...because Wilson did it for him. Valdez is the best version of himself when he doesn't have to chase because he isn't really a pressure-fighter.

[famicommander]

You're stupid. Why don't you take a knee.

Because I'm not getting battered to a stoppage in a fight I was probably winning?

It's ridiculously obvious that taking a knee would've been the smart thing to do. Take the count, compose yourself, get up, and get to the end of the round. Instead he just stood there and let Valdez unload on him with unanswered combinations which forced the stoppage.

[Feroz]

Difference is that this time Valdez didn't have to close distance...because Wilson did it for him. Valdez is the best version of himself when he doesn't have to chase because he isn't really a pressure-fighter.

Valdez was uncomfortable when Liam had pressured him onto the ropes though, Valdez didn't have to close in because Wilson closed in like you stated, but Oscar had the most sucess when he choose to engage in the phone booth instead of shying away from it.

Valdez shouldn't be trying to choose his shots when he isn't a one punch knockout artist, he should keep busy to get the opportunity or win the rounds.

[BigZ44]

Fun fight, solid card, was glad to be there. Main event kinda went as expected for me, Wilson can come again. Head home and fight a guy like Nathaniel May to get his feet back under him and then try at world level again.

Valdez showed he's still the same guy he's been. Power and toughness are still there, outcome just depends on what range the match is fought at. Inside or mid distance and Oscar is gonna land and land hard, if you keep it at long range he has no chance.

Really hope Albert Bell doesn't get mandated for that belt, because that has boring, predictable UD for Bell written all over it. I hope Valdez just chases high action fights and good stylistic matchups the rest of his career. Looking at the WBOs top 15, guys like Kenichi Ogawa, Andres Cortes and Mark Magsayo would make for really fun fights

[kiaba360]

Valdez was uncomfortable when Liam had pressured him onto the ropes though, Valdez didn't have to close in because Wilson closed in like you stated, but Oscar had the most sucess when he choose to engage in the phone booth instead of shying away from it.

Valdez shouldn't be trying to choose his shots when he isn't a one punch knockout artist, he should keep busy to get the opportunity or win the rounds.

Valdez is a counter-puncher, values precision over volume. He just doesn't have the height/reach that perfectly suits his style. He relies on heavy counters to build momentum, and then increases the volume when he feels the tides changing. Wilson was fading and his lack of head movement turned him into target practice. Wilson needed to maintain long-range to have a chance, but that Navarrete fight may have tricked him into believing that he's some big puncher. Valdez is the smaller fighter, but is definitely the better puncher.

[Feroz]

Valdez is a counter-puncher, values precision over volume. He just doesn't have the height/reach that perfectly suits his style. He relies on heavy counters to build momentum, and then increases the volume when he feels the tides changing. Wilson was fading and his lack of head movement turned him into target practice. Wilson needed to maintain long-range to have a chance, but that Navarrete fight may have tricked him into believing that he's some big puncher.

You mean the Berchelt fight right? I will check Valdez's fights again then. Just to see if I am recalling it correctly or if you are correct.