Comments Thread For: Derrick James Hints at Rift With Errol Spence Jr., Focuses on Other Charges

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

No sane person with at least fourteen brain cells saw Crawford-Spence as a 50/50 fight.

Nearly every major bookmaker and sports book did.

I picked Crawford personally, but the general consensus was 50/50 fight.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

james have been quiet imo... he's barely in the spotlight... fighters just need to man up. stop blaming the trainer. the trainer doesnt fight for you.

He was very vocal during the build up.

[A.B Counterhooks]

I think that history will regard the career of Errol Spence as one of wasted time and squandered opportunity. Errols biggest problem is that he doesn't live like a world class , elite athlete. To be great at this hardest of sports , it takes a 24/7 , 365 commitment. Not everyone has the type of discipline necessary to do that. It's not easy.

This right here is mainly the problem with ESJ.

Aside from consistent discipline, Spence def needs a great bounce back win to regain some confidence evidently shattered by TC,then and only then a rematch with Bud at 154 would make sense.

[cmwiza]

No sane person with at least fourteen brain cells saw Crawford-Spence as a 50/50 fight.

Crawford started fight week at -190 most places. Late in the week the odds tightened. Crawford was only -140 by the weigh in. People couldn’t see their way through the smear campaign against Crawford. The internet would have you believe mean machine knocked Bud down, that Porter was damaged goods when they met, that Crawford never wanted the Spence fight. Just one ridiculous lie after another. In a world without social media Crawford would have been a 3-1 favorite.

[Sid-Knee]

Porter was not winning the Crawford fight. He was in the fight for sure and kept it competitive, but when Bud stopped him, Crawford was up 6-3 in rounds. This lie that Porter was ahead needs to stop.

Larry Hazzard had Porter up 7 rounds to 2 after 9. Both Steve Weisfeld and Rey Danseco had Crawford winning 5-4 after 9. None of the judges had it 6-3 to Crawford after 9.

My score card was 6-3 Porter after 9. Even Crawford's corner told him he was behind. And he was. He barely did anything. He mostly looked at Porter while shifting his feet thinking it was some good stuff. It wasn't. He was definitely losing that after 9 completed rounds. Porter was too busy and landing nearly all the scoring shots.

[hennanra1000]

Spence was showing signs of lack of discipline and being intoxicated with his own abilities early on. The drunk accident was really a sad case of someone needing to give him a reality check.

Just like Fury, Wilder, countless others - its a case of poor mindset affecting longevity for an insanely talented fighter. Spence ‘could have been’ a ATG as fighting at level he was coming off the accident shows just how talented he was. Sometimes wonder how many fighters even train outside camp.

Its interesting how fighters who were written off or never got their dues are now coming to top again.

Huge respect for James with sticking with him - it seems he finally had to tell him some hard truths. Its a shame now he has Garcia who is 100x worse.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Crawford started fight week at -190 most places. Late in the week the odds tightened. Crawford was only -140 by the weigh in. People couldn’t see their way through the smear campaign against Crawford. The internet would have you believe mean machine knocked Bud down, that Porter was damaged goods when they met, that Crawford never wanted the Spence fight. Just one ridiculous lie after another. In a world without social media Crawford would have been a 3-1 favorite.

It’s not social media.

Crawford got out jabbed by both Benavidez (on one leg) and Amir Khan.
Crawford had his eye damn near closed from jabs by the ghost of Kell Brook.
Crawford got two-pieced, wobbled and dropped by Kavaliauskas.
Crawford was getting touched up by Avanesyan.
Crawford dropped five rounds minimum to a tentative Shawn Porter.

The world saw a man who gets hit. That’s why the odds went the way they went.

Spence didn’t show up. Period. There’s simply no logical reason he should have been getting rocked off jabs from a former lightweight even if he did eventually lose. He wasn’t there on fight night. And Derrick James alluded to it.

[kiaba360]

Larry Hazzard had Porter up 7 rounds to 2 after 9. Both Steve Weisfeld and Rey Danseco had Crawford winning 5-4 after 9. None of the judges had it 6-3 to Crawford after 9.

My score card was 6-3 Porter after 9. Even Crawford's corner told him he was behind. And he was. He barely did anything. He mostly looked at Porter while shifting his feet thinking it was some good stuff. It wasn't. He was definitely losing that after 9 completed rounds. Porter was too busy and landing nearly all the scoring shots.

TC was winning on all three scorecards: https://boxrec.com/en/scoring/2722519

It was a close fight though. TC is fortunate that BoMac told him he was behind.

[cmwiza]

Larry Hazzard had Porter up 7 rounds to 2 after 9. Both Steve Weisfeld and Rey Danseco had Crawford winning 5-4 after 9. None of the judges had it 6-3 to Crawford after 9.

My score card was 6-3 Porter after 9. Even Crawford's corner told him he was behind. And he was. He barely did anything. He mostly looked at Porter while shifting his feet thinking it was some good stuff. It wasn't. He was definitely losing that after 9 completed rounds. Porter was too busy and landing nearly all the scoring shots.

Judge Max Deluca had it 6-3 Crawford. Google “Crawford Porter Scorecards” for a link right here on Boxingscene. Every judge had Bud winning through nine frames. Crawford’s corner told him “THEY say Porter is up.” Crawford was dumbfounded. HOW? Bud stepped on the gas.

I wasn’t scoring. I was there at Mandalay Bay. 6-3 in Crawford’s favor was accurate. Porter himself says that he never felt once that he made Bud uncomfortable. And Porter most definitely did not head butt, punch in the balls, or otherwise anger TC.

[cmwiza]

It’s not social media.

Crawford got out jabbed by both Benavidez (on one leg) and Amir Khan.
Crawford had his eye damn near closed from jabs by the ghost of Kell Brook.
Crawford got two-pieced, wobbled and dropped by Kavaliauskas.
Crawford was getting touched up by Avanesyan.
Crawford dropped five rounds minimum to a tentative Shawn Porter.

The world saw a man who gets hit. That’s why the odds went the way they went.

Spence didn’t show up. Period. There’s simply no logical reason he should have been getting rocked off jabs from a former lightweight even if he did eventually lose. He wasn’t there on fight night. And Derrick James alluded to it.

Try watching the sport without an agenda. You will enjoy it more. Maybe, if you hadn’t come to believe your own Crawford propaganda, you wouldn’t be stuck with “simply no logical reason” why Spence was beaten like a rented mule.