Comments Thread For: Derrick James Hints at Rift With Errol Spence Jr., Focuses on Other Charges

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  • chicken-
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    #11
    James saying he should rematch Crawford is crazy lol

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    • Oregonian
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      #12
      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

      and the trainer did that, 28 times!!!! but the moment a fighter loses once, it's the trainer's fault??? so what happened with the 28 victories that spence got?? the trainer aint got nothing to do with that? if you got 28 wins with the same trainer and then take your first L, then who's fault is that if the trainer was able to help you win 28 of your fights??!!!
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      Casuals tend to have selective memory. The idea that any fighter suffers a first loss they need to fire their coach is ludicrous.
      Imagine Bud getting beat by Boots then he fires Bomac.
      Or, Tank getting beat by Martin then he fires his coach.
      Or Haney firing his dad after getting beat by Garcia.

      Look at how great that worked for Hatton or Khan. There are those rare cases where switching trainers aren’t related to just losses but one’s style of fighting. Wladimir switching to Steward was great for his career.
      PAC to Roach had so many layers behind it too.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #13
        Originally posted by Oregonian
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        Casuals tend to have selective memory. The idea that any fighter suffers a first loss they need to fire their coach is ludicrous.
        Imagine Bud getting beat by Boots then he fires Bomac.
        Or, Tank getting beat by Martin then he fires his coach.
        Or Haney firing his dad after getting beat by Garcia.

        Look at how great that worked for Hatton or Khan. There are those rare cases where switching trainers aren’t related to just losses but one’s style of fighting. Wladimir switching to Steward was great for his career.
        PAC to Roach had so many layers behind it too.
        Agree with you but if the fighter and his management feel the trainer didn’t have him ready for the biggest fight of his career, you can see why the fighter would choose to move on.

        Or some top guys, like Fishnets, move through trainers at different stages of their careers.

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          #14
          Originally posted by chicken-
          James saying he should rematch Crawford is crazy lol
          He's clever way of saying "he should rematch Crawford with a different trainer and it'll be the same outcome" then he can have his pride knowing Spence would always lose to crawford

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          • factsarenice
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            #15
            First, styles make fights, trainers can't change a puncher they can only add to, or enhance his style. The split is not in the gym it's about finances.... and a solid case can be made either way. A shyt situation made worse by attention whores and their ignorant opinions for likes and subscribes.

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              #16
              Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

              and the trainer did that, 28 times!!!! but the moment a fighter loses once, it's the trainer's fault??? so what happened with the 28 victories that spence got?? the trainer aint got nothing to do with that? if you got 28 wins with the same trainer and then take your first L, then who's fault is that if the trainer was able to help you win 28 of your fights??!!!
              When the same faults show up time and time again, you can place some of the blame on the trainer.

              You act like James is perfect and absolutely blameless. Even Bud pointed out the poor corner instructions between rounds after re-watching the fight.

              Errol obviously wants to improve and feels he's reached his ceiling with James and he's not wrong.
              Last edited by Gary Coleman; 03-27-2024, 11:30 AM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                Agree with you but if the fighter and his management feel the trainer didn’t have him ready for the biggest fight of his career, you can see why the fighter would choose to move on.

                Or some top guys, like Fishnets, move through trainers at different stages of their careers.
                28 wins and spence finally took his first L, not just against any fighter but to TC... james did a great job for all those 28 wins but in the biggest fight of his training career and for his fighter spence, james got lazy??? it doesnt make sense... fighters need to stop blaming their trainer especially when they didnt have any issues with their trainer for all the times they won.

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                • IceTrayDaGang
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Gary Coleman

                  When the same faults show up time and time again, you can place some of the blame on the trainer.

                  You act like James is perfect and absolutely blameless. Even Bud pointed out the poor corner instructions between rounds after re-watching the fight.

                  Errol obviously wants to improve and feels he's reached his ceiling with James and he's not wrong.
                  time and time? but spence took his first L against TC...

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                  • CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart
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                    #19
                    I think that history will regard the career of Errol Spence as one of wasted time and squandered opportunity. Errols biggest problem is that he doesn't live like a world class , elite athlete. To be great at this hardest of sports , it takes a 24/7 , 365 commitment. Not everyone has the type of discipline necessary to do that. It's not easy.

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                    • Afi23
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by pnut901
                      I think that history will regard the career of Errol Spence as one of wasted time and squandered opportunity. Errols biggest problem is that he doesn't live like a world class , elite athlete. To be great at this hardest of sports , it takes a 24/7 , 365 commitment. Not everyone has the type of discipline necessary to do that. It's not easy.
                      Discipline indeed!
                      On the other side, Crawford basically always looks like he could make weight on the upcoming friday.

                      Like the late great Pun said: "I wasn't always Big Pun, it wasn't always this fun"

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