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  • #61
    Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks View Post
    garfios also dont forget Mungia also a young ,undefeated hungry to make a living and name for himself fighter with family of his own, he also deserves a shot at Canelos ,not saying more than Benny but hes also top 5 ranked fighter and not some undeserving bum some dumb folks claim he is.

    Going straight to Canelo from Rhyder is conning the fans.

    Promoters are cashing in on that worthless 0 of Mungia to hype the fight.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by davef View Post
      How many of these killers ever lived up to it in recent times? Kovalev was meant to kill the light punching Ward, Pac was meant to overwhelm Floyd, GGG was gonna run through Canelo etc and yet they all lost

      people will claim they won but even if they did it was still close and nothing like all the hype claimed it would be

      I wouldn't be surpised if Benavidez steps in with Canelo and gets his ass handed to him
      People just love a boogeyman story. It makes them feel good I guess.

      Next up are Subriel Matias and Dave Morrell.

      And yes the narrative for Canelo vs GGG really changed after the first two fights. The most popular prediction for Canelo-GGG 1 was that Canelo wouldn’t get out of the 3rd-6th round. That narrative changed quickly after the fight, when Canelo showed those people he wasn’t as bad as they thought, not even suffering a KD or anything, not even getting in kind of trouble at any point in the fight. At all. Largely unfazed by GGG’s power.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by -Kev- View Post

        People just love a boogeyman story. It makes them feel good I guess.

        Next up are Subriel Matias and Dave Morrell.

        And yes the narrative for Canelo vs GGG really changed after the first two fights. The most popular prediction for Canelo-GGG 1 was that Canelo wouldn’t get out of the 3rd-6th round. That narrative changed quickly after the fight, when Canelo showed those people he wasn’t as bad as they thought, not even suffering a KD or anything, not even getting in kind of trouble at any point in the fight. At all. Largely unfazed by GGG’s power.
        So when is Canelo going to rematch bivol? And why the $200m price tag to fight Benevidez?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks View Post

          Theres no doubt Benavidez top mandatory at 168 but its also true boxing a business as well and its obvious canelo would want to cash the fck out of that fight for all the hype going on for some time now and the fact its been years falling short of 1M ppv buys ,coincidentally since GGG(another fighter you guys said he'll duck forever) ,keep in mind the ginger is on his way out and Benavidez could very well be 'the last boogeyman' of his. There is no fear its just business. Not pretty but it is what it is.
          I don't think you have been honest, he knows he ain't getting 200m to fight benavidez, he could have fought him three or four years ago and the excuse was, I'm not fighting no mexicans, he didn't mention money. Why you guys still excusing him is beyond everyone that are looking a this development with clear mind. But you didn't respond to the question, do you think is right not fighting his mandatories for over three years? Affecting g the lives of others.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks View Post
            garfios also dont forget Mungia also a young ,undefeated hungry to make a living and name for himself fighter with family of his own, he also deserves a shot at Canelos ,not saying more than Benny but hes also top 5 ranked fighter and not some undeserving bum some dumb folks claim he is.
            Don't forget that the were others before him, that has been fighting at the division mist longer that him, munguia doesn't deserve to fight for the belts ahead of mbilli, Morell jr nor benavidez. Barely beating a career 160lbs guy and a washed out journeyman from the UK doesn't qualify him for that. Again do you think is right to make those guys wait?

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            • #66
              Canelo sees Benavidez the way Floyd saw Margarito.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by garfios View Post

                I don't think you have been honest, he knows he ain't getting 200m to fight benavidez, he could have fought him three or four years ago and the excuse was, I'm not fighting no mexicans, he didn't mention money. Why you guys still excusing him is beyond everyone that are looking a this development with clear mind. But you didn't respond to the question, do you think is right not fighting his mandatories for over three years? Affecting g the lives of others.
                Ofc the gingerboy wont get 150-200m thats just absurd but he def aiming for the highest bid possible, my guess is he'll try to negotiate a purse between 80-100M that would be career record purse,like I said, canelo is on his way out and will look to cash in on Benavidez, besides that 'I dont fight mexicans' was taken completely out of context as he was asked couple years back if he'll fight zurdo ramirez not a benavidez ,whos not even a Mexican btw.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by garfios View Post

                  Don't forget that the were others before him, that has been fighting at the division mist longer that him, munguia doesn't deserve to fight for the belts ahead of mbilli, Morell jr nor benavidez. Barely beating a career 160lbs guy and a washed out journeyman from the UK doesn't qualify him for that. Again do you think is right to make those guys wait?
                  So you saying both DMJ and Mbilli deserve it more than Mungia with a straight face? Based on what? Just because they been fighting at 168 longer? Lol c'mon man those guys haven't fought any top ranked fighter ,not exactly sure how they are more deserving when they dont bring much to the table right now, at least mungia did beat a top contender to earn his shot. How come they dont fight each other and the winner at least get better positioned for a title shot.

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                  • #69
                    AB Counter you are a nice guy. That has to be why you are making excuses for Saul.

                    No way you actually believe that Canelo turned down a much larger payday, to fight a guy who is his mandatory and has been for a long time....to fight the guy that everyone wants to see him fight....because he is thinking of the future. Benavidez is in the early stages of his prime right now and pummeling good fighters. Saul is past it and fighting junk fights for paydays.

                    I get that you are trying to give Canelo the benefit of the doubt. But tell me honestly, are you saying that you actually believe Canelo is planning to fight Benavidez when he is a year older than he is now, when David is still improving and will be even better than he is now?

                    There is no way you believe that. Canelo is not planning a farewell fight with a guy who will pummel him. Canelo couldn't stop Ryder. Triangle theory isn't always right, but the decline in Canelo is obvious. He isn't waiting for Benavidez to improve as he himself ages.

                    Ive read your posts. You are a smart guy. You cant believe that.
                    Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; 03-22-2024, 12:57 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post
                      AB Counter you are nice guy. That has to he why you are making excuses for Saul.

                      No way you actually believe that Canelo turned down a much larger payday, to fight a guy who is his mandatory and has been for a long time....to fight the guy that everyone wants to see him fight....because he is thinking of the future. Benavidez is in the early stages of his prime right now and pummeling good fighters. Saul is past it and fighting junk fights for paydays.

                      I get that you are trying to give Canelo the benefit of the doubt. But tell me honestly, are you saying that you actually believe Canelo is planning to fight Benavidez when he is a year older than he is now, when David is still improving and will be even better than he is now?

                      There is no way you believe that. Canelo is not planning a farewell fight with a guy who will pummel him. Canelo couldn't stop Ryder. Triangle theory isn't always right, but the decline in Canelo is obvious. He isn't waiting for Benavidez to improve as he himself ages.

                      Ive read your posts. You are a smart guy. You cant believe that.
                      Canelo couldn't stop Ryder and Benavidez couldn't stop Plant, you're are right, triangle theories def not always right but the answer to your question is ,Yes I still believe there is a possibility they'll fight even with all this controversy simply because thats sells and Canelo would be an idiot to let potential super clash along with record purse just walk away like that, but hey I could be wrong too ,I guess time will tell brother.

                      Lets say Benny was the one taking on Mungia, would you still call it a junk fight too?

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