How good is Floyd Mayweather's resume as a ATG?

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  • billeau2
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    #71
    Originally posted by dan-b
    Mediocre until he beat De La Hoya. The Hatton win was good and then he "retired". After his "comeback" he beat more names but a lot of them were past their best.
    If you believe in synchronicity, in patterns more than distinct singular facts when Floyd fought De La Hoya everything changed. Before fighting De La Hoya he couldn't draw fans people forget that now. He became a draw and was perhaps more careful at that point as well. He wouldn't be the first in this regard.

    Ricky Hatton once he beat Zoo fighting an incredible fight became the Mad Humper.. he became so concerned with not losing his whole way of fighting change considerably.

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    • Roadblock
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      #72
      Originally posted by dan-b
      Mediocre until he beat De La Hoya. The Hatton win was good and then he "retired". After his "comeback" he beat more names but a lot of them were past their best.
      Castillo Hernandez Corrales, all of whom are HOF guys, are not mediocre, and he gave them all 10lbs or more on the night. How you call them guys mediocre is ridiculous.

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      • Hous
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        #73
        Don't like him, but his resume is up there with the best of the best, if not the best.

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        • Inoue Body Shot
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          #74
          Floyd Mayweather is the GOAT.

          End of thread.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #75
            Originally posted by Roadblock

            Castillo Hernandez Corrales, all of whom are HOF guys, are not mediocre, and he gave them all 10lbs or more on the night. How you call them guys mediocre is ridiculous.

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            Jesus Chaves, Famaso Hernandez, Zab Judah in their primes were all Top 3-5 quality fighters aswell.

            Definitely far from an average resume pre 2007.

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            • -Kev-
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              #76
              If you give his exact resume to Cotto, Canelo, or any other fighter of his generation, they would undoubtedly be considered an ATG by the same haters. Switch his win over them to a win over himself too, haters would love that even more.

              Mayweather’s resume is amazing. He beat any fighter who mattered in his time.

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              • dan-b
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                #77
                Originally posted by Roadblock

                Castillo Hernandez Corrales, all of whom are HOF guys, are not mediocre, and he gave them all 10lbs or more on the night. How you call them guys mediocre is ridiculous.

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                What does HOF even mean at this point? The criteria for entering this US-based institution seems to be a popularity contest.

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                • dan-b
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  Jesus Chaves, Famaso Hernandez, Zab Judah in their primes were all Top 3-5 quality fighters aswell.

                  Definitely far from an average resume pre 2007.
                  The obvious flaw with the Zab Judah win was that Zab was coming off a loss to a rather unheralded fighter. Zab was another example of an American "name" who got recycled way beyond his merit.

                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Mayweather’s resume is amazing. He beat any fighter who mattered in his time.
                  Didn't beat Margarito, that fight could have happened in 2006.

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                  • dan-b
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by billeau2

                    If you believe in synchronicity, in patterns more than distinct singular facts when Floyd fought De La Hoya everything changed. Before fighting De La Hoya he couldn't draw fans people forget that now. He became a draw and was perhaps more careful at that point as well. He wouldn't be the first in this regard.

                    Ricky Hatton once he beat Zoo fighting an incredible fight became the Mad Humper.. he became so concerned with not losing his whole way of fighting change considerably.
                    I've never been high on Mayweather. He found a style that worked for him in his home city with a US referee and various other factors he stacked in his favour. The successful propaganda line was that he was a "master boxer". So when he spent rounds "moving" around the ring and poking out the occasional punch, judges had been conditioned to think there must be more going on. Coupled with US referees enabling his holding to avoid exchanges it made for the underwhelming events we witnessed. Fans of the guy used to claim detractors "didn't understand the sweet science" of a low output boxer, moving and holding.

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                    • psychofusion
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by garfios

                      At the time of Floyd fight, corrales hadn't fought Casamayor yet. The Marshall was waiting for him ringside to take it him to jail. I don't think his mind was in the fight.
                      The marshall was waiting ringside to take Floyd to jail after the he beat Cotto. Does this elevate Floyd's win?

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