I have a feeling Usyk will beat Fury very bad

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  • Willow The Wisp
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    #31
    I beleive that Fury defeats Usyk.

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    • daggum
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      #32
      Fury is a top level guy but he's not any better than a joshua type. Joshua simply fought better opposition so he took more losses. I mean joshua beat Klitchko Wallen ngannou and whyte which is most of furys resume
      only other guy is wilder who was massively overrated. Joshua has Parker who is much better and guys like povetkin and ruiz who are a level above wilder. Fury is tough to beat but his scarcity of fighting top level guys has led to people overeating him and filling in the holes of his resume with fantasy greatness.
      Last edited by daggum; 03-12-2024, 09:49 PM.

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        #33
        We will see (well...hopefully)

        Fury is so inconsistent and most likely not in his prime anymore. But hes still the bigger man and if the GOOD version of Fury shows up, that guy looks like he beats Usyk imo. Lets not forget Usyk is 37 too, fighting as a small HW, with a big part of his game being his movement and volume which arent traits that tend to age well.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Sparked_26

          I don't even think Fury has the legs or the gas to be up on his toes anymore.

          Back to the 6'9 of inside fightingness mode or whatever he called it. It's less tiring for Fury anyway to try and get march on.

          I think he'd have make peace with the fact he could feasibly offer an opportunity for the Ukrainian middleweight to KO him but that's the game

          yeah his fight with wlad was almost a decade ago and hes had so many cycles of going over 350 pounds since then, he will never be that same guy again. he will have to use his pressure flatter footed style from now on.

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            #35
            Originally posted by daggum
            Fury is a top level guy but he's not any better than a joshua type. Joshua simply fought better opposition so he took more losses. I mean joshua beat Klitchko Wallen ngannou and whyte which is most of furys resume
            only other guy is wilder who was massively overrated. Joshua has Parker who is much better and guys like povetkin and ruiz who are a level above wilder. Fury is tough to beat but his scarcity of fighting top level guys has led to people overeating him and filling in the holes of his resume with fantasy greatness.
            This is excactly how I feel about him.

            Fury could have improved his game in the last years if he fought guys like Ruiz, Povetkin and others. But the guy fought 3 legit opponents in 10 years and stayed undefeated, which led people to believe he was better than he really was.

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              #36
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

              This is excactly how I feel about him.

              Fury could have improved his game in the last years if he fought guys like Ruiz, Povetkin and others. But the guy fought 3 legit opponents in 10 years and stayed undefeated, which led people to believe he was better than he really was.
              Unfortunately being undefeated with a weaker resume is often seen as better than someone with a stronger resume and some losses which is counterintuitive because having a stronger resume will lead to more losses

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                #37
                I hope so, it would restore further respectability to the division. Fury is an obese slob and a liar who it would be good to see the back of.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

                  This is excactly how I feel about him.

                  Fury could have improved his game in the last years if he fought guys like Ruiz, Povetkin and others. But the guy fought 3 legit opponents in 10 years and stayed undefeated, which led people to believe he was better than he really was.
                  Plus Fury's talking led people to believe that too. People are emotional and get swayed by confident sounding charlatans. If Jake Paul can convince people he's got boxing talent, someone with some actual talent can talk people into believing they're greater than they are too.

                  There's just a huge audience generally for English speaking narcissists.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                    I don`t buy that nonsense about Fury being unprepared for Ngannou and about Fury being 100% focused on Usyk.

                    Fury will not become something else in 5 months.

                    Fury just sucks and he will likely lose very bad. After that nobody will care about Fury -AJ, Saudis can keep that money for future events.

                    Fury has been over rated for years! He faced the over rated Wilder and old and over rated Chisora 3 X each... Previously he was cut up like a fish vs. Wallin lost to fat Jon McDermott but was gifted on the cards with a win.

                    Oh he has been busted for PED's and has been docked points in five separate fights! He is both a fraud and a cheater.

                    Recently has been exposed by a 0-1 boxer who got badly KO'd in his second fight.

                    I expect Usyk to expose him again.​

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      Unfortunately being undefeated with a weaker resume is often seen as better than someone with a stronger resume and some losses which is counterintuitive because having a stronger resume will lead to more losses
                      I like this.

                      Unfortunately it is like the boxing fans or at least the casuals that will attend boxing events are to blame.

                      For whatever reason nearly everyone with even the faintest interest in boxing is comfortable forming a strong opinion on everything from boxing psychology to the biomechanics of the sport - even if they have never even hit a bag.

                      Undefeated will always be better when the bulk of the fan base have never been punched in the face.

                      Always makes me wince when heavies like AJ are described a chinny.

                      Oh yeah it as mad his brain scrabbles on occassion when he gets banjo'd by an 18 stone man on the chin.

                      Doesn't matter how many times fighters and pundits says 'all it takes is one punch' you'll still get people watching them as if they are 8 stones manlets and surprised when massive humans get tired.

                      Take Zhang for example....he's 20 stone 11. What the f.uck do people actually think he does for cardio other than just boxing drills and sparring?

                      He's not carrying that body around on a long run he'd absolutely f.uck his knees. Maybe he could go on an excercise bike. There is a good chance Zhang does absolutely f.uck all because he it's impractical and he's 40...so he's always always gonna get tired in top level boxing
                      Last edited by Sparked_26; 03-13-2024, 06:27 AM.

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