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  • #81
    Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
    Parker has lost to dillian whyte , Joe Joyce and Anthony Joshua lol.
    Now I get it because parker beat your hero you’ve now jumped ship hoping that the spirit of wilder is somehow manifested into the DNA of Mr Parker……Your a ****ing clown pollywog lol
    Hahaha...you fûcking idiot. You don't get shït...lol

    I'm a proud Samoan New Zealander living in Aotearoa/NZ, just like Parker. I've never been a fan of Wilder and don't look up to Parker as a hero either. Ship jumping aint my thing.

    I don't need spirits hoping to manifest into DNA. Like how does that happen anyway ?...lol

    I'm very much a supporter of all things Pasifikan, especially those of us achieving in sports and art like Lupesoleai La'auliolemalietoa, Jai Opetaia, Steven Adams, Valerie Adams, Tua Tagovailoa, Dwayne 'the rock' Johnson and Jason Momoa.

    Sorry bruv, but you just clowned yourself and never came back with a single post to refute any of my points. You simply went off on some ignorant childish 4yr old rant.

    My advice to you is grow the fück up, lay off the drugs and stop being a fücking moron.

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    • #82
      Yeah, it looks so much worse for Fury now too. Hopefully he comes out with a performance of a lifetime against Usyk or he will certainly lose.
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      • #83
        Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post
        AJs power vs Furys was the difference maker. Ngannous offence never got the chance to become a factor because his poor defence was exploited by a guy who had the power to make him pay dearly for it.
        The power led to the early KO, but that wasn't the reason why AJ's offense was working: speed, accuracy, feinting. AJ's jab, distance control and counter-punching kept Ngannou uneasy. I assume that Fury wasn't landing anything that Ngannou didn't see coming.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

          The power led to the early KO, but that wasn't the reason why AJ's offense was working: speed, accuracy, feinting. AJ's jab, distance control and counter-punching kept Ngannou uneasy. I assume that Fury wasn't landing anything that Ngannou didn't see coming.
          Fury was feinting too. Ngannou just wasn't biting on it big like he did vs AJ. That says power differential to me, because you can see Ngannou start biting on the feints big after AJ lands a jab. Don't think he was expecting just a jab to be so stiff.
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          • #85
            Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

            Fury was feinting too. Ngannou just wasn't biting on it big like he did vs AJ. That says power differential to me, because you can see Ngannou start biting on the feints big after AJ lands a jab. Don't think he was expecting just a jab to be so stiff.
            I didn't see Fury/Ngannou, but Fury does like to flick his jab rather than throwing an authoritative jab. I was responding to the idea that AJ's power is what ultimately exploited Ngannou's defense. If AJ didn't have other attributes and skills to effectively disguise his punches, I think he would've had a tougher time. His power led to the 2nd round finish, but the other factors allowed AJ to successfully land those damaging punches. He landed only 4 right hands to the head, but each one was a punch Ngannou didn't expect. AJ even disguised the death-blow with a feint to the body, just to be sure. Fury went 10 rounds with Ngannou, I'm sure he landed more than 4 power punches.

            Let's imagine Deontay Wilder was in there against Ngannou. He has one-punch power just like AJ, but I bet Ngannou would've lasted longer because he's lacking in certain areas: uneducated jab, offensively predictable, uncoordinated, and now seems to lack a killer instinct. Ngannou vs. Wilder is probably a way more competitive fight. What people thought Ngannou was gonna do to AJ....he would've done to Wilder.
            Last edited by kiaba360; 03-11-2024, 03:32 PM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
              Tyson Fury simply overlooked Ngannu. A rematch may have looked different. This was a big money event, a circus act for Fury. He was very, very dismissive of Ngannu heading into the fight and he didn’t train like he would for let’s say a Deontay Wilder, Oleksandr Usyk, or Wladimir Klitschko.

              Anthony Joshua had the advantage of witnessing this and not making the same mistake.

              Anthony Joshua took this fight as if he was fighting a top 3 HW because looking good vs Tyson Fury made Ngannu just that in the eyes of many.

              I know a lot of fans are showing a lot of hindsight bias but there was a lot of concern on whether Ngannu can catch a chinny Anthony Joshua and catch him Andy Ruiz style, or not. People were absolutely intrigued.

              It’s easy to say now “Yeah, I knew all along that Ngannu didn’t stand a chance.” But there was absolutely intrigue in this matchup.
              You're the one spouting bs with hindsight bias pal. Fury trained hard and came in at 277, EXACTLY the same weight as when he trained for Wilder 2 and 3.
              Regarding this supposed suspect Joshua chin, you're full of s**t. He's been in with way better opposition that Fraudy and Fury has been dropped loads of times by the likes of Cunningham and Pajkic lmao.
              If you come on here spouting ****e, you're gonna get exposed for it, just like Fury has been exposed as the massive hype job he is.
              We will never see that big fraud in with Joshua, because he KNOWS he will get ktfo and he still remembers the beating Joshua put on him in the gym.
              Get over it fella, Fury has lied and ducked and his Wilder wins are not worth much, unless you can list off all the champions that guy has beaten? Wilder = nothing.
              Fury likes Sefer Seferi types and ancient Chisora x 3.
              You are delusional if you think Fury is a better fighter than Joshua.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by fifth_root View Post

                ​It is always like that. For what is worth - Fury was a man people loved years ago, then he became his worst enemy and currently receives high criticism, one that he surely deserves. The problem is people easily forget and easily go into the hype, no matter positive or negative. So when convenient - he is not a liar, but when not - he is a liar, the point is just to keep the hype.



                Chisora won 5 rounds according to two out of three judges against Usyk. Oh, yeah, I know - Usyk was so cunning he let him win them. Yeah, makes sense...

                What Fury says about this fight is absolutely fair and he puts shame on himself with his words. But of course, if he admits AJ did what had to be done, especially for a man with huge claims as his - he is a hypocrite and bla bla. It is also true that Francis had a big mouth. Now he has one only option: convincingly beat Usyk.

                Is it fair to say it is always AJ after Fury's ex-opponents except for Whyte? He decided to go with Franklin and Helenius instead of Fury and Wilder, yet now barks at both of them.
                I never thought highly of fury at all, IV always said he was over rated , my big problem was he never got in the ring with top guys with form once he beat 2 old top guys that came in with poor performances in the fights prior , maybe he could done great things and was unfortunate with what happen his whole career with setbacks outside the ring but he didn't and everyone for years were calling him a the greatest fighter ever, he was just a big guy with poor and awkward style that was never near a special fighter , but today's boxing analyst are the worst of all time , it's not like he was highly skilled and untouchable, but that's how people talked about him without proving anything , I doubt he even gets in the ring with usyk but if he does I would be shocked if he can be competitive, and it's ok to lose I actually even thought Chisora could of won the fight if he was unbeaten , nothing wrong with losing just keep fighting the best , usyk and AJ and many other great fighters before kept bring fans great shows with top fighters and top fighters , I don't care about the 0 on the record just give us great nights , something fury never kept doing, he did give us great nights with wilder, but it's unfortunate that we didn't see him against any top fighters in form or prime of anyera bar chisora and by the way Franklin was highly skilled he arguably beat Whyte with ease , he has that skillful American slick style , just aj was another level
                Last edited by Sammy7861992; 03-11-2024, 06:34 PM.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by pollywog View Post

                  Hahaha...you fûcking idiot. You don't get shït...lol

                  I'm a proud Samoan New Zealander living in Aotearoa/NZ, just like Parker. I've never been a fan of Wilder and don't look up to Parker as a hero either. Ship jumping aint my thing.

                  I don't need spirits hoping to manifest into DNA. Like how does that happen anyway ?...lol

                  I'm very much a supporter of all things Pasifikan, especially those of us achieving in sports and art like Lupesoleai La'auliolemalietoa, Jai Opetaia, Steven Adams, Valerie Adams, Tua Tagovailoa, Dwayne 'the rock' Johnson and Jason Momoa.

                  Sorry bruv, but you just clowned yourself and never came back with a single post to refute any of my points. You simply went off on some ignorant childish 4yr old rant.

                  My advice to you is grow the fück up, lay off the drugs and stop being a fücking moron.
                  you was always talking big about wilder…..Parker has already been blown out by Joyce and even dillian whyte ffs…..plus lost comfortably to Joshua.
                  now Parker deserve credit for his performances and he is getting that now so well done but he’s not joshua and Joshua is once again the man who everybody looks like…….now as I said your a ****ing clown so take your clueless ass back to your jabba the hut island and let the boxing people talk…….get back in yiur hut put your grass skirt on and go dance round your camp fire

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                    you was always talking big about wilder…..Parker has already been blown out by Joyce and even dillian whyte ffs…..plus lost comfortably to Joshua.
                    now Parker deserve credit for his performances and he is getting that now so well done but he’s not joshua and Joshua is once again the man who everybody looks like…….now as I said your a ****ing clown so take your clueless ass back to your jabba the hut island and let the boxing people talk…….get back in yiur hut put your grass skirt on and go dance round your camp fire
                    Quite the racist prick aren't you ?

                    Hammering away at your keyboard, spewing bile, drooling over your pics of AJ while misspelling words and failing ro punctuate or use proper grammar.

                    Forget about letting the boxing people talk. You do you and speak for yourself, but perhaps first properly learn how to, champ!

                    I'll give you a free pass cos you have the mental capacity of a 4yr old and still in the Hitler Youth.

                    That doesn't take away from you still being a dumbfück who sees Joshua starch an MMA guy and crush his sparring partner, listens to Hearn talk absolute shïte then think AJ's back to his best.

                    The guy needs to put his A-Side Diva ass in with Parker or Hrgovic, Zhang or Wilder and prove he's worthy of contending.

                    Until then keep up with the racist ranting and childish insults. You're a credit to your parents, your people and your upbringing...lol

                    Nah fück off clown you're a fücking disgrace!

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                      Tyson Fury simply overlooked Ngannu. A rematch may have looked different. This was a big money event, a circus act for Fury. He was very, very dismissive of Ngannu heading into the fight and he didn’t train like he would for let’s say a Deontay Wilder, Oleksandr Usyk, or Wladimir Klitschko.

                      Anthony Joshua had the advantage of witnessing this and not making the same mistake.

                      Anthony Joshua took this fight as if he was fighting a top 3 HW because looking good vs Tyson Fury made Ngannu just that in the eyes of many.

                      I know a lot of fans are showing a lot of hindsight bias but there was a lot of concern on whether Ngannu can catch a chinny Anthony Joshua and catch him Andy Ruiz style, or not. People were absolutely intrigued.

                      It’s easy to say now “Yeah, I knew all along that Ngannu didn’t stand a chance.” But there was absolutely intrigue in this matchup.
                      I agree 100% good post

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