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  • joe strong
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    #21
    Absolutely it helped! I said before the Joyce fight that Parker looked soft & didn't look to be in the best shape he possibly could be in. I believe his wife had given birth to a child a few months prior so I can give him a mulligan on that. He hit Joyce with bombs but he was out of gas by the later rounds & Joyce just overwhelmed him. He took a step back & got in 3 fights & 4 training camps going into the Wilder fight. The hard work paid off & the same for Zhang. Parker said post fight he won the Zhang fight because of the hard work he put in. 5 fights in 14 months. At least I know that I always said Parker was a good fighter while most wrote him off as overrated. Joshua did the same thing & it also paid off. Both Parker & Joshua look rejuvenated especially Parker. Wallin took note of this & said he wants to do the same thing by staying active. Others fighters should do the same instead of waiting for the phone call. Joshua destroyed both fighters that gave Fury some issues. Let us see how the Fury/Usyk fight goes. The division is looking intriguing again. I won't prop Joshua up just yet because he still only beat Wallin & Ngganou. He got touched up by Helenius & had a workmanlike effort over Franklin. Parker is the one who deserves all the real accolades he just beat Wilder & Zhang. Saudi Arabia has been great for boxing as we are getting big fights.
    Last edited by joe strong; 03-09-2024, 05:26 PM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by kiaba360

      This is a good point that I often don't think about. When a fighter is injury-free and their personal life is stable, they are likely to be more active. However, I think there's a good amount of fighters who fall into complacency. Instead of living the life of a professional athlete, they start abusing their bodies during their off-time. I think it becomes easier to stay conditioned if a fighter is consistently active...but some can't or don't want to make the sacrifices necessary.
      Yes I agree, life is complicated and more so for some, sometimes it flows like water other times its a Mountain climb every day, a lot of it is how the individual can handle the mental side of whats going on around them, some fall apart others bite the bullet and get stronger, people are just wired different from birth and then programmed from life, if you could get a fighters mind right he will be the best he can be, it's tough being a class fighter, the pressure from booze drugs women fast cars yes men and back slappers is very hard to say no to.

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        #23
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
        Yes. All guys beaten at top level should take some notes. After a big loss take a step back and stay active. Fight some average guys and take some wins and you will make promotors and fans believers again. Joshua hasn`t had a big fight since 2 losses to Usyk, but people already believe he is top 3 again.
        I just pointed that out. Big difference is Joshua looked great against Wallin & Ngganou. He is getting propped up only because Fury struggled with them. Parker just beat Wilder & Zhang. It is not even close to who deserves the accolades for their recent performances. Joshua got touched up by Helenius & had a good workmanlike UD against Franklin. Ngganou is a novice & Wallin is not a big puncher. Let's not get carried away on Joshua's recent performances.
        Last edited by joe strong; 03-09-2024, 05:30 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by joe strong
          I just pointed that out. Big difference is Joshua looked great against Wallin & Ngganou. He is getting propped up only because Fury struggled with them. Parker just beat Wilder & Zhang. It is not even close to who deserves the accolades for their recent performances. Joshua got touched up by Helenius & had a good workmanlike UD against Joshua. Ngganou is a novice & Wallin is not a big puncher. Let's not get carried away on Joshua's recent performances.
          And lets not bypass the boxing, AJ is sharp, punching with conviction, boxing intelligent with KO on his mind, he is an Olympic Gold Medalist who can box textbook clinical boxing, and he is in a great patch of form where everything around him is working that's the real key he is in top form, put it this way right now he is a hard horse to beat in any race, Ive always thought he would knock Fury out just the perfect style, yet I feel Ursk will always out work AJ, and Fury will spiderman Ursk or will also be out worked, styles make fights as they say. Fans either put them on pedestals or in the trash can they cant break them down into fractions.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Roadblock

            And lets not bypass the boxing, AJ is sharp, punching with conviction, boxing intelligent with KO on his mind, he is an Olympic Gold Medalist who can box textbook clinical boxing, and he is in a great patch of form where everything around him is working that's the real key he is in top form, put it this way right now he is a hard horse to beat in any race, Ive always thought he would knock Fury out just the perfect style, yet I feel Ursk will always out work AJ, and Fury will spiderman Ursk or will also be out worked, styles make fights as they say. Fans either put them on pedestals or in the trash can they cant break them down into fractions.
            Joshua is still a force but let's see how he does against a bigger threat than Wallin or a novice. He got touched up by Helenius who took the fight on a week's notice. Wilder was inactive for over a year & plastered Helenius in a round. I'm just saying there might be a little too much hype on his 2 recent wins. As you said styles make fights. Parker just beat Wilder & Zhang. He has moved ahead of Joshua in the line to the top...

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              #26
              Originally posted by joe strong

              Joshua is still a force but let's see how he does against a bigger threat than Wallin or a novice. He got touched up by Helenius who took the fight on a week's notice. Wilder was inactive for over a year & plastered Helenius in a round. I'm just saying there might be a little too much hype on his 2 recent wins. As you said styles make fights. Parker just beat Wilder & Zhang. He has moved ahead of Joshua in the line to the top...
              I don't disagree in full you can only beat who is front of you, but the way you beat them is a good indication of where youre at, you can see when a guy is on point its all in the details, we watch fights and evaluate the merit in it I tend to look at them like a racehorse just another animal with abilities Im trying to see, when AJ is in top form it makes him a real force, because his physical attributes for a HW are near perfect athletism with big power then add textbook technique, not saying he beats everyone just I feel right now he is very capable of beating every top HW on the planet, he has already beat Parker so I don't see them placing Parker ahead of him in the big fight sweepstakes, it would be a good rematch now while the others sort themselves out.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Roadblock

                I don't disagree in full you can only beat who is front of you, but the way you beat them is a good indication of where youre at, you can see when a guy is on point its all in the details, we watch fights and evaluate the merit in it I tend to look at them like a racehorse just another animal with abilities Im trying to see, when AJ is in top form it makes him a real force, because his physical attributes for a HW are near perfect athletism with big power then add textbook technique, not saying he beats everyone just I feel right now he is very capable of beating every top HW on the planet, he has already beat Parker so I don't see them placing Parker ahead of him in the big fight sweepstakes, it would be a good rematch now while the others sort themselves out.
                Everyone wrote off Fury before Wilder, same for Parker after Joyce. Joshua after Ruiz & Usyk. That is best part about HWs. One punch can change the entire dynamic of the division. Joshua is still a force. Joshua vs Parker 2 would be good. The question to be asked is this version of Joshua better than the Joshua in the Parker fight? I’m not sure but I’m am a lot more convinced this version of Parker is better than the Parker from their fight. Showed skill against the southpaw, got off the floor twice against a monster puncher, is in the best shape of his career & has a lot of experience. He has now beaten 2 of the biggest punchers in the division. Can Joshua get off the floor if dropped by Zhang? Can he avoid the Wilder right hand for 12 rounds? We don’t know. Let’s see how Fury/Usyk goes. That is the fight that will shape what direction the division goes. We don’t know who will fight who next. One this I do know is the WBC will be taking Ngganou out of the #10 spot in their rankings…

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by joe strong
                  Everyone wrote off Fury before Wilder, same for Parker after Joyce. Joshua after Ruiz & Usyk. That is best part about HWs. One punch can change the entire dynamic of the division. Joshua is still a force. Joshua vs Parker 2 would be good. The question to be asked is this version of Joshua better than the Joshua in the Parker fight? I’m not sure but I’m am a lot more convinced this version of Parker is better than the Parker from their fight. Showed skill against the southpaw, got off the floor twice against a monster puncher, is in the best shape of his career & has a lot of experience. He has now beaten 2 of the biggest punchers in the division. Can Joshua get off the floor if dropped by Zhang? Can he avoid the Wilder right hand for 12 rounds? We don’t know. Let’s see how Fury/Usyk goes. That is the fight that will shape what direction the division goes. We don’t know who will fight who next. One this I do know is the WBC will be taking Ngganou out of the #10 spot in their rankings…
                  Ratings are not made around probabilities, AJ and Parker are both in their top form I think you would get pretty much the same fight and AJ wins again.

                  Wilder is ordinary, he be lucky to land anything on AJ, Wilder does nothing for me Im amazed he got as far as he did, I knew Parker would beat him.

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                    #29
                    It's almost like working on your craft makes you better at it than sitting on your ass six months a year.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_
                      It's almost like working on your craft makes you better at it than sitting on your ass six months a year.
                      On face value that's true, but if everything else is sht its really hard to do.

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