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  • BodyBagz
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    #151
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    So you're saying people said Floyd Mayweather was using PEDs?

    So is that not evidence that Floyd used PED's like you're saying it is for Pacquaio then?

    Which one is it, is it evidence or isn't it?

    I think you might want to take a nap and try again on this stuff if I'm being honest. Your grasp on what qualifies as evidence is totally out.
    There will be ''fight'' fans saying Mike Tyson was on roids.
    When a pro fighter does everything he can to support the accusations, well.........

    If you act guilty, chances are you are guilty.
    If I'm guilty of something, I will act the way Pac did

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      #152
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      If you're asking how there can be proof, are you saying there isn't proof? Because you'd be right in that if you are.

      And just so we're clear he didn't refuse random blood tests, he refused random blood tests without a cut off date. Again, not evidence for PED use. It's evidence that he refused a drug testing procedure without a cut off date and nothing more.

      You can form your opinion as to why he made that decision, but that's all it would be, an opinion.
      The proof would be uncovered during trial, all the circumstantial evidence would be prepared in a brief and then fired off like game of chess.

      There is no single piece of proof that says he is guilty, but there is a lot of circumstantial stuff that suggests it, its the new stuff that would come out of cross examination that would reveal guilt or innocence.

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        #153
        Originally posted by BodyBagz

        Why do you think Pac was on the juice ?
        My personal opinion that Pacquaio was likely a PED user is based on my decades of experience both using PEDs personally and training athletes that used PEDs.

        Knowing how prevalent PED use in sports in general, not just elite sports. And observing Pacquaio's physical capabilities, despite his obviously good genetics, if I had to hazard a guess I would say the chances of him being on PED's is very likely from my expert opinion.

        That said, is it possible he wasn't? Sure.

        And more to the topic, is there any evidence that he used PEDs? No.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #154
          Originally posted by BodyBagz

          Which is the definition of random
          Not really.

          It's the definition of "cut off date". Not the definition of random.

          The testing would have been random, up to a cut off date.

          Is there a point here, or?

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            #155
            Originally posted by BodyBagz

            There will be ''fight'' fans saying Mike Tyson was on roids.
            When a pro fighter does everything he can to support the accusations, well.........

            If you act guilty, chances are you are guilty.
            If I'm guilty of something, I will act the way Pac did
            Right, so does that equate to evidence of Mike Tyson being on PEDs?

            You're aware that people saying stuff is not evidence for something, right?

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              #156
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza

              My personal opinion that Pacquaio was likely a PED user is based on my decades of experience both using PEDs personally and training athletes that used PEDs.
              You are not alone or uniquely qualified

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                #157
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                Right, so does that equate to evidence of Mike Tyson being on PEDs?

                You're aware that people saying stuff is not evidence for something, right?
                BRUH..........it's only a crime when you're caught.
                Pac did everything in his power not to get caught.
                You never did give names of other pro boxers who REFUSED to submit to random blood tests

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by BodyBagz

                  You are not alone or uniquely qualified
                  Didn't say I was either of those things.

                  Is there a point here, or?

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    Didn't say I was either of those things.

                    Is there a point here, or?
                    Sigh.....

                    So, you don't really think Pac was juicing

                    Have a swell evening/day

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by BodyBagz

                      BRUH..........it's only a crime when you're caught.
                      Pac did everything in his power not to get caught.
                      You never did give names of other pro boxers who REFUSED to submit to random blood tests
                      Not really. Pacquaio underwent random blood testing without cut off dates plenty of times in his career.

                      But regardless, it's still not evidence that he took PEDs. You said there's evidence, when, there isn't.

                      In regards to other pro boxers who refused random drug testing. Off the top of my head I don't think there is one. Do you have a point with that?

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