How would you rate Gervonta "Tank" Davis's resume so far?

[IronDanHamza]

Dead average, at best.

[dan-b]

He fights annually so probably only has three or four fights left. Big bank balance, mediocre resume.

The US has a population of around 330mil so to get a PPV of 250,000 only requires you to convince 0.075% of the population to buy a PPV and you're a millionaire. He had Floyd and other big guns backing him early and that gave him the profile he needed.

If he was an eastern european with the same ability no one would care.

[SteveM]

It could be better but it’s not terrible. He definitely has avoided the top guys at 135. IMO it doesn’t deserve a top 10 p4p ranking.

If Tank was from anywhere other than America ( or worked for other than PBC/Floyd) his resume wouldn’t be an issue.

A lot of top tier boxers from Mexico and Eastern Europe have accumulated wins over much lesser talent than Tank has. Few have an issue.

There are also those with much better resumes that can’t draw fans like Tank has but can't draw or sell tickets. This is the real issue.

The posters who are on their 3rd account because the others were permabanned for racist posts are crying and spewing vitriol in this thread. I am not talking about El Mero the TS.

Why these losers are mad that Tank has become a star because he can draw fans and sell tickets despite their criticism of his resume is silly.

you are deflecting by conflating racist posters and Tank's resume.

If you call yourself the Face of Boxing but have a less than stellar resume you are bound to attract criticism. It has nothing to do with being connected to FM or PBC for most fans. Most fans want boxers to stamp their legacy and fulfill their potential. Seeing any fighter like Tank with elite ability avoid the best fights is disappointing. Crawford got it for resigning with Top Rank, Fury got it for fighting Ngannou, Canelo now for not fighting DB - although if Tank had the resume of Canelo we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[SteveM]

Personally I think he has a solid resume, although not exactly outstanding due to the stipulations applied for some fights affecting his opponents attrition, reflexes, athleticism and durability to a degree. (Barrios, and Garcia.)

While the outcome between Santa Cruz and Davis was obvious based on their styles and advantages/disadvantages, Davis had moved back down to 130 to fight for the belt without any advantageous conditions against the HOF.

Pedraza is a solid win against a undefeated former champion. Though he has lost all his major fights.

his wins over Hector Luis Garcia (super featherweight who moved up to lightweight), Yorerkis Gamboa and Rolando Romero aren't aging well. Isaac Cruz has also not proven himself which might imply he is getting overrated because of one performance where he lost.

Gervonta needs at least one Marquee at 135-140 win like a Lopez, Lomachenko, Stevenson, or Haney to be in Hall of Fame.

A win over Martin or Matias might age well.

I'm not sure why LSC is being discussed as a lock for HOF - he was a good fighter and thats about it - if from now on any 2/3 div champ is automatically enshrined then the HOF will be diluted and become less meaningful. On this basis we can say many current lower weight fighters will be in - mostly from Japan at the minute. Also Quigg Frampton and LSC wouldn't even mention Rigondeaux's name when they were all at 122 at the same time.

I'll be as excited as the next fan if Tank signs for Matias - not holding my breath lol - not until Matias has been beaten a couple of times. I agree about Loma, Stevenson Lopez and Haney but Devin and Teo are long gone from 135 - he couldd and should have made a fight when hey were at 135.

[Roadblock]

He fights annually so probably only has three or four fights left. Big bank balance, mediocre resume.

The US has a population of around 330mil so to get a PPV of 250,000 only requires you to convince 0.075% of the population to buy a PPV and you're a millionaire. He had Floyd and other big guns backing him early and that gave him the profile he needed.

If he was an eastern european with the same ability no one would care.

Davis is producing KOs under the big lights, that's his attraction to the casuals that make up the majority of a buy rate, and to astute boxing people they also see his boxing ability, youre always bringing race into it, race has nothing to with the big picture in boxing if you keep sleeping guys the attention comes, whether your Matias or Davis, Nigel Benn or Hector Thompson who killed 2 men in the ring, if you can keep sleeping guys good fortune and popularity comes in boxing and it doesn't matter where you come from.

[Malvado]

I'm not sure why LSC is being discussed as a lock for HOF - he was a good fighter and thats about it - if from now on any 2/3 div champ is automatically enshrined then the HOF will be diluted and become less meaningful. On this basis we can say many current lower weight fighters will be in - mostly from Japan at the minute. Also Quigg Frampton and LSC wouldn't even mention Rigondeaux's name when they were all at 122 at the same time.

I'll be as excited as the next fan if Tank signs for Matias - not holding my breath lol - not until Matias has been beaten a couple of times. I agree about Loma, Stevenson Lopez and Haney but Devin and Teo are long gone from 135 - he couldd and should have made a fight when hey were at 135.

Leo debuted at 118 up and work his way up to 130, he might not be the biggest puncher (at all), but he really put his all in his fights throwing an average of 2000 punches per fight.

He had wins over Champs like:

Victor Terrazas (37-2-1)
Cristian Mijares (49-7-2) who defeated Terrazas, a declined Rafael Marquez and a prime Jorge Arce.
Abner Mares X2 (29-1-1) (31-2-1) three division champ.
Kiko Martinez (35-6)
Carl Frampton (23-0) a two division champ who beat Kiko Martinez X2, Scott Quig, Leo Santa Cruz and a ATG in Nonito Donaire.

Though it was obvious that he wouldn't be able to beat a knockout artist from 135 when he was pillowfisted even at the lower divisions.

While I agree that stating a fighter is a HOF shouldn't be said so easily since it will lose its meaning, I think a grinder like Santa Cruz had earned it after fighting the best available in four divisions. Also yeah, it's too bad that Rigondeaux didn't get the opportunities he deserved and instead had to fight Loma two divisions above.

I believe Tank is willing to compete at 140 depending on the weaknesses displayed in the opposition, he likes pressure fighters like Matias and will likely fight him if he notices any major deficiencies in his defense. Same with Haney and Lopez.

Stevenson is not a big draw by himself, I doubt Tank will pursuing him, like Floyd said, they are only taking in-house fights unless it's worth it. Loma is declining as he just turned 36 years old, if Tank doesn't hurry then people will question the legitimacy of his win if it actually happened. (Though Davis did avoid him for years during his prime)

[The D3vil]

Terrible for the "cash cow" of American boxing.

Tank could fight anybody he wants anytime he wants.

He's in a position that only Canelo, AJ, and probably Katie Taylor occupy in boxing where everybody they fight gets a career payday, so he has no excuse.

It's just him and Mayweather, Ellerbe, and Haymon protecting this dude from fighting the best.

[tomhawq]

People need to leave Tank Wahid alone. On paper he's a free agent and no longer signed with Mayweather/Ellerbe. He can fight any non-PBC fighter he wants and on any platform. But it's obvious he still needs Ellerbe's assistance and protection. Otherwise, he's lost. He's an angry man and he's not expected to work well with people he's not familiar with.

[dan-b]

Leo debuted at 118 up and work his way up to 130, he might not be the biggest puncher (at all), but he really put his all in his fights throwing an average of 2000 punches per fight.

He had wins over Champs like:

Victor Terrazas (37-2-1)
Cristian Mijares (49-7-2) who defeated Terrazas, a declined Rafael Marquez and a prime Jorge Arce.
Abner Mares X2 (29-1-1) (31-2-1) three division champ.
Kiko Martinez (35-6)
Carl Frampton (23-0) a two division champ who beat Kiko Martinez X2, Scott Quig, Leo Santa Cruz and a ATG in Nonito Donaire.

Though it was obvious that he wouldn't be able to beat a knockout artist from 135 when he was pillowfisted even at the lower divisions.

While I agree that stating a fighter is a HOF shouldn't be said so easily since it will lose its meaning, I think a grinder like Santa Cruz had earned it after fighting the best available in four divisions. Also yeah, it's too bad that Rigondeaux didn't get the opportunities he deserved and instead had to fight Loma two divisions above.

I believe Tank is willing to compete at 140 depending on the weaknesses displayed in the opposition, he likes pressure fighters like Matias and will likely fight him if he notices any major deficiencies in his defense. Same with Haney and Lopez.

Stevenson is not a big draw by himself, I doubt Tank will pursuing him, like Floyd said, they are only taking in-house fights unless it's worth it. Loma is declining as he just turned 36 years old, if Tank doesn't hurry then people will question the legitimacy of his win if it actually happened. (Though Davis did avoid him for years during his prime)

Vic Darchinyan's win over Mijares was far more meaningful. I think there's a bigger case for Vic going in the HoF than LSC.

[The Big Dunn]

you are deflecting by conflating racist posters and Tank's resume.

If you call yourself the Face of Boxing but have a less than stellar resume you are bound to attract criticism. It has nothing to do with being connected to FM or PBC for most fans. Most fans want boxers to stamp their legacy and fulfill their potential. Seeing any fighter like Tank with elite ability avoid the best fights is disappointing. Crawford got it for resigning with Top Rank, Fury got it for fighting Ngannou, Canelo now for not fighting DB - although if Tank had the resume of Canelo we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Notice that I criticized Tank for not fighting the top names, so I am being consistent with the criticisms you discuss.

His resume isn’t as bad as the people I mention say. i have no problem with fair criticism of his resume.

Calling himself the face of boxing is about his ticket and ppv sales. How he markets himself has nothing to do with his resume.

Any boxer’s resume should be based just on the people on it, not what they call themselves. Right?

Come on SteveM.