Comments Thread For: Keith Thurman, at 35, Aims for the Big Names - Including Terence Crawford

[Tag, You're Hit]

Just all paper nonsense.

He was easily beaten by a 40 year old Pacquaio despite the decision for 1.

For 2, he's never stopped a ranked opponent, he's only ever even dropped one ranked opponent and that's Guererro. So why you'd think 22 KO's against unranked opponents means he can punch I really don't know.

He only has 4 wins over ranked fighters in general in his entire career and a grand total of ZERO wins over Top 5 ranked opponents.

You can pretend that's not a crap career if you'd like.

That fight with PacMan was a close, entertaining fight. There was nothing "easy" about it. Had Keith not gotten barely clipped while going backwards in round 1, a round he was winning, it would have been a majority draw. Great fight.

He rocked/buckled Porter and Garcia and KO'd plenty of quality fighters. The One-Time moniker doesn't fit these days, but just because he isn't getting KO's doesn't mean he can't punch. Floyd Mayweather Jr. didn't get KO's in his last several years, but he could still punch. Different strategy.

As for Top 5 ranked opponents he beat, I believe Porter and Garcia were.

Made millions of dollars. I'd take that career. Most boxers would take that career.

Maybe you're just speaking in hyperbole about a crap career and doing nothing of note. I hope so, otherwise your standards are unreasonable. You can hate Keith all you want. There are plenty of things he does to rub people the wrong way (talking in 3rd person, running his mouth, not fighting in ages, etc). But to hate on his accomplishments in a very tough sport when he's accomplished more than 95% of fighters is unreasonable.

[Roadblock]

I’m hopeful Keith’s conditioning is top level for Tszyu otherwise, how does he keep his distance from a charging forward, heavy handed Tszyu? Very concerned for Keith’s health in this one..

Well not quite,, Tim doesn't charge forward, he steps forward in straight lines he doesn't cut guys off, and he only throws one-two, he rarely throws a 3 punch or more combination, totally agree conditioning is super important for Thurman, he cant stand in front of Tim he has to use angles, sharp punching and quick feet, I think the fight hinges on what shape Thurman can get into, style-wise he is a classier boxer, but then comes youth, size, power, endurance.

[MulaKO]

Keef should give it up , honestly
Just to much inactivity and no focus on boxing or minimum
Won’t end well imo

[steeve steel]

No, but seriously.. Thurman lost to a past due date Pacquiao, who lost to Ugas, who got destroyed by Spence, who got annihilated by Crawford.

[IronDanHamza]

That fight with PacMan was a close, entertaining fight. There was nothing "easy" about it. Had Keith not gotten barely clipped while going backwards in round 1, a round he was winning, it would have been a majority draw. Great fight.

Except it wasn't. The cards won't change that fact, it was not a close fight.

He rocked/buckled Porter and Garcia and KO'd plenty of quality fighters. The One-Time moniker doesn't fit these days, but just because he isn't getting KO's doesn't mean he can't punch. Floyd Mayweather Jr. didn't get KO's in his last several years, but he could still punch. Different strategy.

He had neither badly hurt at any point.

You're the one that brought the fact he stopped 22 unranked opponents into it like it means something, when it doesn't.

He actually KO'd no quality fighters. No ranked fighters. And he only ever dropped one ranked fighter in his whole career in Guererro. That is not a puncher. It just isn't. Punchers knock ranked fighters out, Keith Thurman has never and likely will never do that, because, he's not a puncher.

And Mayweather can't punch either, not above 140 lbs.

As for Top 5 ranked opponents he beat, I believe Porter and Garcia were.

No, they weren't. Let's not make things up to support the argument. Thurman has zero wins over Top 5 ranked opponents, that is a fact.

Made millions of dollars. I'd take that career. Most boxers would take that career.

And? That's irrelevant.

Adrien Broner made more than Thurman. Francis Ngannou as of Saturday will have made more than both of them combined. Money you made isn't a metric.

Maybe you're just speaking in hyperbole about a crap career and doing nothing of note. I hope so, otherwise your standards are unreasonable. You can hate Keith all you want. There are plenty of things he does to rub people the wrong way (talking in 3rd person, running his mouth, not fighting in ages, etc). But to hate on his accomplishments in a very tough sport when he's accomplished more than 95% of fighters is unreasonable.

I'm talking in the grand scheme of things like anyone should on these topics.

Yeah he had a good career if we're talking compared to most boxers who will never reach world level but in the grand scheme of things, his career is not impressive. Hard to be when you have zero wins over Top 5 opponents and four wins over ranked opponents in general. Even from the four ranked fighters he beat, only two of them weren't moving up from a lower weight class and one of them was Shawn Porter who was never elite and the other was Jan Zaveck who's dead average at best. These are facts.

[Murray Kelm]

Keith still pretends that he has never heard of boots Ennis.

[RuleOfTheSpear]

bud seems to be ready to face the winner of this fight based on his recent statements and the wbo's maneuverings (stripping tszyu if he loses).

i like bud vs tszyu for wbo strap
bud should move to 160 and fight janibek after that

[Charles83]

Keith's job is to give young Tszyu a few rounds get his $1m and walk away.

[BodyBagz]

All he has to do is earn it.

[WholeSoul75]

Crawfords southpaw Manila Ice is waaay more effective than pacs. He tagged Spencer with it in the 2nd round a few exchanges before the kd and it was game over