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  • #81
    Originally posted by dan-b View Post

    If you think he's great, whatever. I had specific reasons for writing that post for that poster.
    Yeah like trying to tell how you dont like the man, which has nothing to do with what he has achieved as a boxer, you argue personality over statistics, he is boring, he is underwhelming, the moment youre asked to compare him from a ring perspective to another resume or same era fighter its crickets.

    Fans/haters make a sht load of claims and accusations about everything except what is recorded in the history books, his resume is rock solid, could it be better, off course, just as every other fighters resume in history could be better, thats my point the whole thing with you guys is hate driven, its all soap opera and drama while the boxing gets twisted to the shthouse to fit the personal hate thats driving the narrative, the underlying rational with haters is so fkd up to me.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

      Yeah like trying to tell how you dont like the man, which has nothing to do with what he has achieved as a boxer, you argue personality over statistics, he is boring, he is underwhelming, the moment youre asked to compare him from a ring perspective to another resume or same era fighter its crickets.

      Fans/haters make a sht load of claims and accusations about everything except what is recorded in the history books, his resume is rock solid, could it be better, off course, just as every other fighters resume in history could be better, thats my point the whole thing with you guys is hate driven, its all soap opera and drama while the boxing gets twisted to the shthouse to fit the personal hate thats driving the narrative, the underlying rational with haters is so fkd up to me.
      Except this post (which you ignored) explained why I think he got too much credit and had nothing to with his personality.

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      • #83
        Seems like people would rather dissect Nelo and give EVERYON ONE ELSE a pass

        Boxing has the worst, most double standard having, hypocritical fans in all of sports.
        TheOneAboveAll TheOneAboveAll likes this.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by dan-b View Post

          Except this post (which you ignored) explained why I think he got too much credit and had nothing to with his personality.
          Exactly as I said, not a boxing statistic in sight, youre attacking the character even to the point of its a negative because he is American, pseudo-privileged because he was number one in the sport just as can be said for any that made it in boxing to that status, there is nothing there to do with his boxing and that is my point proven again. You even point at it, like you don't even know youre not being critical your hating on a guy you don't like it is that simple.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

            Exactly as I said, not a boxing statistic in sight, youre attacking the character even to the point of its a negative because he is American, pseudo-privileged because he was number one in the sport just as can be said for any that made it in boxing to that status, there is nothing there to do with his boxing and that is my point proven again. You even point at it, like you don't even know youre not being critical your hating on a guy you don't like it is that simple.
            Pwill , Margarito and Pac09 he blatantly evaded at welter in his prime, bottomline. You can make a huge case for Pac but the other 2, no.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

              Exactly as I said, not a boxing statistic in sight, youre attacking the character even to the point of its a negative because he is American, pseudo-privileged because he was number one in the sport just as can be said for any that made it in boxing to that status, there is nothing there to do with his boxing and that is my point proven again. You even point at it, like you don't even know youre not being critical your hating on a guy you don't like it is that simple.
              I get it, these where very hard fights, Pwill was one of the tallest WW that put on gloves and he could box. Margarito the same thing, he was a pain in the ass to fend off and he could take any shot thrown at him, especially by soft handed May. That was making it so interesting but no we got 3 ducks in a row from a prime fighter that calls himself TBE ? That is not right.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Haka View Post

                Pwill , Margarito and Pac09 he blatantly evaded at welter in his prime, bottomline. You can make a huge case for Pac but the other 2, no.

                Margarito barely got past 1 handed statuesque Clottey
                Margarito is a product of marketing.
                Never amounted to anything.
                His claim to fame lasted all of 1 fight

                Pac avoided random blood tests
                Then TopRank needed time to build the perfect stadium for such a momentous event

                Paul was a connudrum
                Should have been a legit legend and not an Aaron Pryor type.
                Problem was, his own aggression.
                Ham handed Margarito was able to connect at will
                I couldn't see May doing any worse

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                  Exactly as I said, not a boxing statistic in sight, youre attacking the character even to the point of its a negative because he is American, pseudo-privileged because he was number one in the sport just as can be said for any that made it in boxing to that status, there is nothing there to do with his boxing and that is my point proven again. You even point at it, like you don't even know youre not being critical your hating on a guy you don't like it is that simple.
                  You were complaining in this post about people "setting up posting rules to suit their agenda" and are blind to how you're doing the same.

                  Statistics don't take into account manner of victory. Floyd used a style that worked very well under conditions that maximised his likelihood of victory. He never attempted it in Mexico, Britain or the Philippines.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Haka View Post

                    I get it, these where very hard fights, Pwill was one of the tallest WW that put on gloves and he could box. Margarito the same thing, he was a pain in the ass to fend off and he could take any shot thrown at him, especially by soft handed May. That was making it so interesting but no we got 3 ducks in a row from a prime fighter that calls himself TBE ? That is not right.
                    Plus he "retired" after the Hatton fight thus avoiding Cotto when the fight would have been at its most interesting. He got salty when someone else took the limelight in his absence, came back and gave a henpecking performance against JMM and then started throwing PED accusations around. So boring, I really went off boxing during that period.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by messi807 View Post
                      Canelo in 64 fights has only fought two fighters younger than him. Yildirim & Caleb Plant.
                      - - Started boxing age 15...DUH!!!

                      21-0-1 with the draw avenged against future lightweight champ Miguel Vasquez who was also older than Canelo...DUH!!! That was his American Debut and he fought the experienced Larry Mosley, cousin of Shane Mosley who was prime aged 28.

                      I could go on, but he didn't get to be a consensus top p4p fighter by fighting mugs.

                      Might want to take a night class to learn how to reason...yeah...

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