Floyds 40 million flat offer debunked

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Its the same subject wtf is off topic lol, makes me laugh when fools like try and set up some sort of posting rule to suit your agenda in a forum lol. If only you would follow your own rules.

"in 2012".. you went back 2 years my boy!

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Tim is nowhere near the boxing ability of Cotto, but anyway Manny was 144 fight night with a 130 weighin, and was 145 at WW , the list of Guys that move up all these weight don't really, they are the same fight night weight in the higher division, where Mannys management got real smart was knowing that top tier fighters don't have pounds to spare they know they are close to their limits not all but most, now by CWing Oscar and Cotto he took advantage two ways, the Ist he doesn't have to dry out to make weight so he will be as strong as he can be at the weight, and if he can push the opponent over the edge just a little it has a double effect, its magic how as soon as guys were not CWed he could stop anybody, everybody was calling PEDS especially after turning down the biggest fight in history over Ped testing as Roach admitted, but I don't believe there was Peds, I believe it was the CWs draining guys that made the difference, which is why he wanted nothing to do with Cotto unless there was a CW, what is it stating when the only way you will fight a guy is with a CW.

Whats your take on the Mosley situation, I can prove all the following but you can go search it if you like, we have Mosley calling out Manny big time, even begging at 142, Roach said no, Mosley said but you allowed Cotto 145 and Roach answered your not Cotto, referencing where Roach said Cotto was damaged goods, but back to Mosley, so this fight is no go, then it all changed after Mosley fights and loses to Floyd, then Mosley fights a draw with Mora, then Manny says ok I will fight you now weight doesn't matter, what do you make of all that?

Have you noticed that during Mannys run , that his biggest wins were Oscar Cotto and Hatton, are you aware of Oscar had not made 147 in 13 years going up as far as MW, and that Manny outweighed him on fight night, you've got to know Oscar was severely drained in that fight gaining only 2lbs from weighin don't you ?, Cotto was also at a weight disadvantage just not near as bad as Oscar and the Cotto fight was after 2 give me C graders fights away from a beating that can ruin careers ( Roachs Damaged Goods line), and with Hatton he was just of his big loss to Floyd looked like sht against a cab driver and Pauli , he also had a ******* habit, lost his wife and family, tried to commit suicide and to top it of sacked life long trainer and friend Billy Graham and hired Floyd senor which clearly shows Hattons state of mind, his book is very interesting you should read it.

Im turning in for now, at least you have a go at answering even if you make no logical sense at all, will see where its at tomorrow.

He fought back to back Cotto-Clottey-Margarito-Shane. Remember that Cotto had a hard time against Clottey, apart from that jab knockdown the fight was pretty close. Didn't wait 6 years for Shane like some other boxers did on Pac.

The Oscar fight was kind of a farce but for the rest your whole livelihood depends on the 1lbs extra weight that Cotto had to cut compared to his previous fight.

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You mean like Manny at WW doesn't cut what he did at 130 ?

Which fights on Floyd current resume is bigger fight than from the potential fights ?

Mosley in 2003, Kostya in 2004, Lara in 2015, GGG at 154, Pwill, Pac in 09, Margarito (06 - 09)

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Was it all smoke and mirrors ?

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He fought back to back Cotto-Clottey-Margarito-Shane. Remember that Cotto had a hard time against Clottey, apart from that jab knockdown the fight was pretty close. Didn't wait 6 years for Shane like some other boxers did on Pac.

The Oscar fight was kind of a farce but for the rest your whole livelihood depends on the 1lbs extra weight that Cotto had to cut compared to his previous fight.

Youre narrative leaves out so many defining factors.

Clottey retired, Clottey didnt even try to win and when he did open up he beat Manny up go look at Manny face after that, it was a BS fight, I could go on about the weight also as Clottey had failed before to make 147 so they knew there was that involved he was well paid for his retirement there is an very interesting interview with Clottey you should try to see it reveals more than Im saying here.

Cotto was given 2 C grade easy beat fights after a terrible cheat beating ( Roach said he was damaged goods) then coerced into a CW by Arum that Cotto didn't want and he didn't want his title on the line, said he was weight drained sacked Arum as soon as he could and moved to 154 where Manny refused to fight him again without another CW.

Margarito was in exile banned from boxing blew up like a ballon in the years out, had one fight in Mexico at 154 against a nobody and looked like garbage then Manny at 150 for a 154 title with a Duretic found in his dressing room , and Bob got Margo his licence to box in Texas, the NABF denied his request so Bob paid the money in Texas, 24ft ring, illegal gloves, and the irony of not fighting Uri Foreman because he wouldn't accept a CW, picking Margo who is the same size as Foreman, and all topped of after calling Cotto out and refusing because Cotto said yes but no CW, its one of fakest give me title fights in history, should never have been for a 154 title.

Shane begged him for a fight at 142, Roach said no your not Cotto, Shane then loses to Floyd and has a draw with a B grade Mora then Manny says lets fight.

Im mentioning a truck load more than 1 pound, address each issue don't ignore what you don't like.


Before losing to Floyd and a draw with Mora.,

“Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny,” Roach says. “I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn’t enough money there, and second, you’re too good a fighter.”

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...b02-story.html

Josh Clottey

I don’t think people understand how much that can weaken a fighter’s spirit. I didn’t see Vinny until the week of the Pacquiao fight. So, after the weigh-in, I went to his hotel room. I told him how unhappy I was. I said, drop the 33 percent down to 27 percent. He refused. When I fought Pacquiao, I decided I was just going to defend myself.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxi...q1hl6uvp47wpxh



A weight loss supplement was seen in Margarito's dressing room before the fight, and Pacquiao's team demanded that he be tested before the fight for possible banned substances. Texas officials, though, said the testing would be done after the fight as usual.

The weight loss supplement was reportedly Hydroxycut, sold over the counter.

Margarito struggled to lose the last few pounds this week to make the 150-pound contract weight for the fight.

https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/n...ory?id=5804013

[RyanjLarose]

yall still crying about this ./././././yall gonna be 71 in the barber shop going on about this

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Youre narrative leaves out so many defining factors.

Clottey retired, Clottey didnt even try to win and when he did open up he beat Manny up go look at Manny face after that, it was a BS fight, I could go on about the weight also as Clottey had failed before to make 147 so they knew there was that involved he was well paid for his retirement there is an very interesting interview with Clottey you should try to see it reveals more than Im saying here.

Cotto was given 2 C grade easy beat fights after a terrible cheat beating ( Roach said he was damaged goods) then coerced into a CW by Arum that Cotto didn't want and he didn't want his title on the line, said he was weight drained sacked Arum as soon as he could and moved to 154 where Manny refused to fight him again without another CW.

Margarito was in exile banned from boxing blew up like a ballon in the years out, had one fight in Mexico at 154 against a nobody and looked like garbage then Manny at 150 for a 154 title with a Duretic found in his dressing room , and Bob got Margo his licence to box in Texas, the NABF denied his request so Bob paid the money in Texas, 24ft ring, illegal gloves, and the irony of not fighting Uri Foreman because he wouldn't accept a CW, picking Margo who is the same size as Foreman, and all topped of after calling Cotto out and refusing because Cotto said yes but no CW, its one of fakest give me title fights in history, should never have been for a 154 title.

Shane begged him for a fight at 142, Roach said no your not Cotto, Shane then loses to Floyd and has a draw with a B grade Mora then Manny says lets fight.

Im mentioning a truck load more than 1 pound, address each issue don't ignore what you don't like.


Before losing to Floyd and a draw with Mora.,

“Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny,” Roach says. “I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn’t enough money there, and second, you’re too good a fighter.”

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...b02-story.html

Josh Clottey

I don’t think people understand how much that can weaken a fighter’s spirit. I didn’t see Vinny until the week of the Pacquiao fight. So, after the weigh-in, I went to his hotel room. I told him how unhappy I was. I said, drop the 33 percent down to 27 percent. He refused. When I fought Pacquiao, I decided I was just going to defend myself.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxi...q1hl6uvp47wpxh



A weight loss supplement was seen in Margarito's dressing room before the fight, and Pacquiao's team demanded that he be tested before the fight for possible banned substances. Texas officials, though, said the testing would be done after the fight as usual.

The weight loss supplement was reportedly Hydroxycut, sold over the counter.

Margarito struggled to lose the last few pounds this week to make the 150-pound contract weight for the fight.

https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/n...ory?id=5804013

Yeah Clottey was only covering up, did it ever come to mind that prime Pac had blistering handspeed that Clottey could not deal with ? Another live dog that your idol has evaded.

Manny is a 130lbs fighter that already obliterated him at his best weight minus 1 pound. Of course Miguel is going to say that he was weight drained after the beating he took. Just like he said Floyd was better because he looked better against Floyd then against Pac where he got manhandled by a super feather weight fighter (Remember that Pacs run up the division started against Diaz). You keep on bringing up Cotto, I advise you to watch the fight if you haven't already, Pac obliterated him. Are you informed about this ?

Margarito was tough as nails we saw that in the Pac fight. That is the reason why Floyd ran from him since 06, because he could handle Floyds power walk him down for 12 rounds straight with the Aztec mentality. However against Pac his style was not so effective because Pac had A+ offence and could throw punches in bunches unlike single punch pot shotting Floyd.

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Yeah Clottey was only covering up, did it ever come to mind that prime Pac had blistering handspeed that Clottey could not deal with ? Another live dog that your idol has evaded.

Manny is a 130lbs fighter that already obliterated him at his best weight minus 1 pound. Of course Miguel is going to say that he was weight drained after the beating he took. Just like he said Floyd was better because he looked better against Floyd then against Pac where he got manhandled by a super feather weight fighter (Remember that Pacs run up the division started against Diaz). You keep on bringing up Cotto, I advise you to watch the fight if you haven't already, Pac obliterated him. Are you informed about this ?

Margarito was tough as nails we saw that in the Pac fight. That is the reason why Floyd ran from him since 06, because he could handle Floyds power walk him down for 12 rounds straight with the Aztec mentality. However against Pac his style was not so effective because Pac had A+ offence and could throw punches in bunches unlike single punch pot shotting Floyd.

Where is any answers to disprove what I said, stopping hating and knob polishing and prove me wrong with actual recorded fact, don't you get it Im not interest in your fan cheer leading Im only interested in fact that can be proven.

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Where is any answers to disprove what I said, stopping hating and knob polishing and prove me wrong with actual recorded fact, don't you get it Im not interest in your fan cheer leading Im only interested in fact that can be proven.

So your point stand on that Cotto fought 1 lbs before his usual weigh in and that Manny didn't take the Cotto fight at 154 but already obliterated him at his best weight ? Is that your point ?

About Mosley: he washed Mosley pretty easily in a short timespan after May. May touched him a few times but he was pretty unscathered from the encouter. It is not that Mosley was suddenly a different version after May scratched him a few times.

Now what fan fiction are you going to cook up for May ducking Tszyu ? Tszyu was #3 P4P at one time, it would have been a pretty good scalp.

If you are going in triangle theories than I got one for you: Beterbiev > Ali. Look it up yourself.

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So your point stand on that Cotto fought 1 lbs before his usual weigh in and that Manny didn't take the Cotto fight at 154 but already obliterated him at his best weight ? Is that your point ?

About Mosley: he washed Mosley pretty easily in a short timespan after May. May touched him a few times but he was pretty unscathered from the encouter. It is not that Mosley was suddenly a different version after May scratched him a few times.

Now what fan fiction are you going to cook up for May ducking Tszyu ? Tszyu was #3 P4P at one time, it would have been a pretty good scalp.

If you are going in triangle theories than I got one for you: Beterbiev > Ali. Look it up yourself.

The 1lb was only part of a point, read the rest and address all of it, out of context is boy scout talk.

What about Mosley lol, wtf you on about going straight into fan BS, address his terrible form going into Manny, address why Manny wanted nothing to do with him at 142 as Roach said youre too good Shane, things changed when Mosley was beat twice, why don't you talk about that lol.

What proof have you May ducked Tyszu, I know your fanboy narrative runs on empty but this is another lets go left field into something else that is just fanboy narrative lol

What has Ali Beterbiev got to do with anything, you fanboys are flippant if you were under interrogation you would be looking at 20 years for perjury lol.