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  • #81
    Originally posted by garfios View Post

    Then if you know this, how can you said canelo is a natural JMW? You guys are defending canelo with lies, things that doesn't make any sense or they can be countered with facts. Why are you defending this guy, really? He has lie to all you, he hasn't behave like the face of boxing and as we all can see now, he doesn't want to take a risk. Is like an unhealthy relationship were the woman or the man is constantly cheating and getting caught, and the partner forgiving her/he and when asked by a friend, excusing the behavior and telling their friend she/he is not doing it again because she/he promised.
    I don’t get why you need me to explain this too you. If a man is 18. That is his TRUE fighting weight barring he’s not fat and is in shape AND IS VERY DISCIPLINED.
    Felix Trinidad fought at 147 and he was 5”11. That was the best Tito cause his weight to size was at its most efficient. Delahoya was at his best at 135 and he was 5’10 1/2. Oscar was just an animal at 135. 147 not so much. He struggled more at 147.
    I’m 5’9 and boxed at 126. I was huge for that weight class. Not everyone can EXPLOIT this angle. Fat boys and no discipline boxers especially. True boxers know this angle and use it. Look at Hopkins, Gotti, Corrales, Canelo @154 and so on.
    Last edited by MONGOOSE66; 03-04-2024, 01:45 PM.
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    • #82
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - Turned blue on the scales at 152 vs l'l floydy and thus flat since on fightnight he was limited to 165 lbs because of a rehydration clause. His fight weights at 154 were normally mid 170s in his early 20s. Since moving to middle his fight weights went up to mid 180s, ie his natural street weight out of training in the 190s.

      Did you just start watching boxing?
      No, he knows more boxing that you and will tell you to stick to badminton. That was his awnser when I told him more or less the same thing.
      Last edited by garfios; 03-04-2024, 02:19 PM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

        I don’t get why you need me to explain this too you. If a man is 18. That is his TRUE fighting weight barring he’s not fat and is in shape AND IS VERY DISCIPLINED.
        Felix Trinidad fought at 147 and he was 5”11. That was the best Tito cause his weight to size was at its most efficient. Delahoya was at his best at 135 and he was 5’10 1/2. Oscar was just an animal at 135. 147 not so much. He struggled more at 147.
        I’m 5’9 and boxed at 126. I was huge for that weight class. Not everyone can EXPLOIT this angle. Fat boys and no discipline boxers especially. True boxers know angle and use it. Look at Hopkins, Gotti, Corrales, Canelo @154 and so on.
        I agreed, if you can make the weight that's you division, he was exploiting that loop like everyone else. He was 23/24 yo last time he fought at 155, so now he's a natural 168_175 because he can't make the weight any longer. 10 years ago he was 154, he's not fat and while he's not a teenager no more, at 33yo still in his prime. So I don't why you're pointing out his weight 11 years ago.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
          Time is on Benny's side being he's 6 years younger than Nelo.

          If I had my way -
          Biv rematch (3x if Nelo wins)
          Benny
          Beter
          MuMu
          Retire
          That would be awesome

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          • #85
            Originally posted by garfios View Post

            I agreed, if you can make the weight that's you division, he was exploiting that loop like everyone else. He was 23/24 yo last time he fought at 155, so now he's a natural 168_175 because he can't make the weight any longer. 10 years ago he was 154, he's not fat and while he's not a teenager no more, at 33yo still in his prime. So I don't why you're pointing out his weight 11 years ago.
            SMH, muscle begins to marble with fat as we age, therefore your weight goes up. True boxers will have the discipline to hold their weight down for a long period of time as they age like Hopkins, GGG, Ward & Holyfield. There will come a point when boxers get too old where they can’t maintain their true boxing weight. It’s time to retire at that point. Like Canelo. He should be fighting 160 still.
            True that some boxers at the age of 18 will go up a little of weight at 21 but they should go up just ONE weight class.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

              SMH, muscle begins to marble with fat as we age, therefore your weight goes up. True boxers will have the discipline to hold their weight down for a long period of time as they age like Hopkins, GGG, Ward & Holyfield. There will come a point when boxers get too old where they can’t maintain their true boxing weight. It’s time to retire at that point. Like Canelo. He should be fighting 160 still.
              True that some boxers at the age of 18 will go up a little of weight at 21 but they should go up just ONE weight class.
              Then you have the freaks like pcquio and inoe. Still canelo was MW when he fought a 155, and then he outgrew the division. He ain't that old and always in shspe.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by garfios View Post

                Then you have the freaks like pcquio and inoe. Still canelo was MW when he fought a 155, and then he outgrew the division. He ain't that old and always in shspe.
                He’s PAST his prime. You disagree?

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

                  He’s PAST his prime. You disagree?
                  Who? canelo? He is not in his prime but stil young. My problem with him is that he doesn't want to let go, nor fight his inminentes threats.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by garfios View Post

                    Who? canelo? He is not in his prime but stil young. My problem with him is that he doesn't want to let go, nor fight his inminentes threats.
                    He’s been a professional boxer since 15 and he’s 33. That’s a long time. He’s been the top guy for 10 years or so.
                    Hes fought ALL THE TOP GUYS over that time. Hes earned the right to go out any way he pleases. Benividas is a great fighter and I think he can whip everyone at 168-175. I’d pay to see him fight any top guy. He don’t need Canelo to prove he’s great.

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                    • #90
                      If he isnt doing it now I dont see why he would later. Hes already at an age and stage in his career where he could be thinking about retirement. Now would be the time for him to take that fight if hes gonna do it, rather than waiting until hes even older and further past his prime.

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