Will Canelo ever fight Benavidez ?

[garfios]

How long is Benavidez going to be at 168 pounds? Benavidez for me, is like Toney Bellew 'When he was fighting at 175 pounds'.

Just seems like, it is only a matter of time before 'His performance may start to decrease dramatically'.

Note: Alvarez skill for skill, is on another stratosphere to Benavidez 'Stylistically it is not a difficult fight for Alvarez to prepare for'.

Benavidez has the attributes to make the fight, competitive 'But not the specific attributes which have historically always troubled Alvarez such as? Elite level movement, World to Elite level defense, and World to elite level long to mid range game'.

When Bernard Hopkins signed to fight Kelly Pavlik, to the casual boxing fans 'That fight appeared to be a brutal fight in waiting for Hopkins'.

But experts and people who analyse fights in-depth, and understand styles 'Knew that Hopkins stylistically was a difficult fight for Pavlik'.

I believe this match up of Benavidez vs Alvarez 'Is that same kind of dynamic. To the general public and certain boxing fans, who don't really analysed boxing in-depth? They all seem to believe that Benavidez is one of Alvarez's most difficult challenges in his career'.

It has never been that type of fight for me 'But for sure, it is a great match up in terms of passion and the story between the fighters'.

I am sure eventually, Alvarez will fight Benavidez 'If both fighters keep on winning, and the demand reaches fever pitch'.

Being honest? I don't think Benavidez needs to earn or prove anything more to get his title fight vs Alvarez 'The fight is there to be made'.

But Alvarez may have different goals and targets other than Benavidez in his career at this stage 'Alvarez still could still be aiming to rematch Bivol at 175 pounds. That loss on his resume, may honestly be motivating him more than the Benavidez challenge' etc.

They should have made that fight 3 or 4 years ago, back them it was a more winnable fight for ginger. While I agreed with that this is an easy fight to prepare for, it's not an easy fight to win, as you said canelos has got a lot of problems with technical fighters like Lara and bivol, even trout, that's why he avoided those type of boxers for years, those boxers are his aquiles heel, but he has never face a prime young grinder fighter with a good chin and heavy hands, faster than him, everybody talks about canelo's defense, I think is overrated, only shows against old boxers or mediocre ones. I think he has a chance to win but he will have to go through hell to take it. It is a duck, of course he has other targets, weakers and softer fighters, do you think he doesn't know he can prepare easier for this fight? That is his job, he knows it, and also that ain't going to be easy and he's going to get punished like never before, it's a duck and he should vacate the belts like he did before, he knows how to do that too.

[garfios]

Thats why I saidhe should retire and free the division
But you still haven’t answered my question ; will you have the same enthusiasm for Benny ducking Artur ?

He ain't going to duck artur, he has ducked Morrell Jr, you should talk about that, but it won't lessen the canelos duck nor the block he's putting on others SMW well deserving to fight for the belts, and the black eye he's giving to boxing, because he doesn't want to get in the ring and throw a punch. The irony.
PS. Just for the record, I'm defending benavidez because on my view he's the best available SMW that should be fighting for the crown, I like to see him fight a good boxer like canelo, or Morell jr. I'm not his follower, but what is right is right, that fight eill clear the path for others.

[PRINCEKOOL]

They should have made that fight 3 or 4 years ago, back them it was a more winnable fight for ginger. While I agreed with that this is an easy fight to prepare for, it's not an easy fight to win, as you said canelos has got a lot of problems with technical fighters like Lara and bivol, even trout, that's why he avoided those type of boxers for years, those boxers are his aquiles heel, but he has never face a prime young grinder fighter with a good chin and heavy hands, faster than him, everybody talks about canelo's defense, I think is overrated, only shows against old boxers or mediocre ones. I think he has a chance to win but he will have to go through hell to take it. It is a duck, of course he has other targets, weakers and softer fighters, do you think he doesn't know he can prepare easier for this fight? That is his job, he knows it, and also that ain't going to be easy and he's going to get punished like never before, it's a duck and he should vacate the belts like he did before, he knows how to do that too.

No it is not a easy fight to win, the effort in order to win? Possibly may be even more difficult than attempting to beat Bivol 'Benavidez may force Alvarez to exercise more resolve'.

That is because we all know what type of fight Benavidez will bring 'Benavidez has no choice, but to bring violence from round 1 onwards'.

And this is exactly why for me? The fight is right up Alvarez's street 'Alvarez's best attribute is his inside game, and his defense on the offense'.

Note: So yes, 3-4 years ago this fight was more winnable for Alvarez 'But back then it was not a mega fight. Now the match up and fight is one of the biggest events in boxing at least in america'.

Benavidez does not need to win anymore fights, or prove anything more to earn his challenge vs Alvarez.

I have stated this before? If Benavidez really wants this fight 'Maybe he will have to confront Alvarez in physical reality, instigate a physical confrontation and demand the fight'.

Old school tactics in my opinion still work under certain circumstances 'And they create major hype' etc.

[crimsonfalcon07]

How long is Benavidez going to be at 168 pounds? Benavidez for me, is like Toney Bellew 'When he was fighting at 175 pounds'.

Just seems like, it is only a matter of time before 'His performance may start to decrease dramatically'.

Note: Alvarez skill for skill, is on another stratosphere to Benavidez 'Stylistically it is not a difficult fight for Alvarez to prepare for'.

Benavidez has the attributes to make the fight, competitive 'But not the specific attributes which have historically always troubled Alvarez such as? Elite level movement, World to Elite level defense, and World to elite level long to mid range game'.

When Bernard Hopkins signed to fight Kelly Pavlik, to the casual boxing fans 'That fight appeared to be a brutal fight in waiting for Hopkins'.

But experts and people who analyse fights in-depth, and understand styles 'Knew that Hopkins stylistically was a difficult fight for Pavlik'.

I believe this match up of Benavidez vs Alvarez 'Is that same kind of dynamic. To the general public and certain boxing fans, who don't really analysed boxing in-depth? They all seem to believe that Benavidez is one of Alvarez's most difficult challenges in his career'.

It has never been that type of fight for me 'But for sure, it is a great match up in terms of passion and the story between the fighters'.

I am sure eventually, Alvarez will fight Benavidez 'If both fighters keep on winning, and the demand reaches fever pitch'.

Being honest? I don't think Benavidez needs to earn or prove anything more to get his title fight vs Alvarez 'The fight is there to be made'.

But Alvarez may have different goals and targets other than Benavidez in his career at this stage 'Alvarez could still be aiming to rematch Bivol at 175 pounds. That loss on his resume, may honestly be motivating him more than the Benavidez challenge' etc.

Not sure why you think he wants to rematch Bivol OR to fight Benavidez. If he wanted either fight they'd have been made. Period. Canelo still calls the shots in terms of matchmaking. He could make these fights easily if he behaved even a fraction like Naoya Inoue. He'd have already gotten the rematch with Bivol if he'd had the cojones to offer something other than a perfunctory same terms offer. He'd certainly have the fight with Benavidez if he wanted it. I doubt either fight happens unless he's forced into it.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

He should retire but he insists he’s fighting for another 5 years which is just ridiculous. Hes been going down hill for the last 4 years.
So, if he is fighting another 5 years, he’ll just wait for Benividas to grow out of the division and then fight him.

What exactly has happened for him to suggest he's been going down hill the last 4 years? I'm intrigued by this comment.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Dude literally just left his promoter to avoid facing Benavidez. There's your answer.

Not sure if you are just ignorant due to laziness, or you are purposely ignoring reality.

Canelo leaving PBC had nothing to do with Benavidez. It had everything to do with what PBC could not provide which was $$ to satisfy the rest of his contract.

[garfios]

No it is not a easy fight to win, the effort in order to win? Possibly may be even more difficult than attempting to beat Bivol 'Benavidez may force Alvarez to exercise more resolve'.

That is because we all know what type of fight Benavidez will bring 'Benavidez has no choice, but to bring violence from round 1 onwards'.

And this is exactly why for me? The fight is right up Alvarez's street 'Alvarez's best attribute is his inside game, and his defense on the offense'.

Note: So yes, 3-4 years ago this fight was more winnable for Alvarez 'But back then it was not a mega fight. Now the match up and fight is one of the biggest events in boxing at least in america'.

Benavidez does not need to win anymore fights, or prove anything more to earn his challenge vs Alvarez.

I have stated this before? If Benavidez really wants this fight 'Maybe he will have to confront Alvarez in physical reality, instigate a physical confrontation and demand the fight'.

Old school tactics in my opinion still work under certain circumstances 'And they create major hype' etc.

He didn't fight him back them for the same reason that he's not going to fight him now, benavidez will take him out of his comfort zone. How mega fights has canelo been against a real threat going in? He fought fielding, I didn't hear anyone clamoring for that fight. Well timed calculated risks all his career. I don't blame him one bit, hey fans pay to watch WWE matches so I understand that canelo's fights look more real, but we all know who's going to win. What we real fans are asking is, fight the #1 or the #2 SMW or vacate the belts and do whatever he want. He's stopping these young boxer to make a living, those corrupts belts bring money to the one that has it.

[paulf]

Canelo leaving PBC had nothing to do with Benavidez. It had everything to do with what PBC could not provide which was $$ to satisfy the rest of his contract.

That is fanfiction made up by Rick Glasser, as confirmed by Keith Idec.

PBC would pay Canelo his full guarantee to fight Charlo next, IF Canelo agreed to fight Benavidez in the final fight of his contract. Canelo said no and walked.

Chris Mannix and Keith Idec have confirmed that. Money for a fight is not put escrow this far out the way Glaser described. It's fanfiction.

[j0zef]

What does he have left to prove ?
Tell me ?
Him retiring at this moment is the best thing he can do
His legacy is fulfilled
He’ll be recognized as the best Mexican fighter ever
If you don’t think so just need to ask who the Mexican fighter we all thought was cause he’s announced Canelo as the best Mexican fighter himself

1. The problem is people like yourself need to come up with your own thoughts and stop reading into chit cause someone said so

I tell my kids everyday this thought that was instilled in me from very young : Don’t be a follower and make sure your a leader
I don’t give two fughs what the article or reporter or you in this case think of another man
Just a heads up , not everything you read on the internet is true
Start there and see where it takes you

ROFL. Best Mexican fighter ever? Let's see:
He gets schooled by 36 year old Mayweather
Gets a lucky decision against Lara
Creates his own weight division
Gets Golovkin as mandatory
Throws belt in the trash
Ducks Golovkin for 2 years (until Golovkin was 35, 2 years older than Canelo is now)
Gets a lucky draw after which Byrd is suspended as a judge
Pops dirty for PEDs
Gets another robbery against Golovkin, winning by "1 round"
Gets schooled by Bivol, and only loses 113-115 on the cards (want to have fun? Go look at the punch stats if you're too lazy to watch the fight. Canelo got beat pillar to post).
Ducks Benavidez
Pulls up Jermell 2(!) divisions
Ducks Benavidez again

Other greats like JCC, ODLH, Morales, Sal, etc actually fought their opponents instead of cherry picking, and their careers are not littered with questionable decisions, PED busts, and ducking allegations.

[MONGOOSE66]

What exactly has happened for him to suggest he's been going down hill the last 4 years? I'm intrigued by this comment.

For one he’s slower. 2 he gets tired by the 4th round. 3 he gets hit now not to mention he’s been a PROFESSIONAL boxer since he was 15. That creates a lot of wear and tear in the body. He also fights way above his true fighting weight. He looks soft now. Look up a picture of him posing with Mayweather for their boxing match. Now that’s the true Canelo body. He was lean and ripped. He’s a natural 154 fighter.