Is the welterweight division dormant?

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  • Mammoth
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    #11
    The era just ended with Crawford-Spence. Give it some time to rebuild. Boots and Stanionis are the best guys out there currently.

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      #12
      Originally posted by 4truth
      Ennis, if he is actually as ambitious as his father claims he is, should start targeting 154.

      there is a lot more going on there than is likely going to happen at welter any time soon.
      This makes sense.

      All the names are moving to 54 or at 54
      Ortiz, Thurman, Spence, Tszyu, Charlo, Crawford, Castano, Danny, etc.

      While Boots will be stuck with Barrios, Stanionis, Santillan, etc.

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      • jqSide
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        #13
        The top 3 are not even active. It will take years before it gets back up to speed. You just have to hope a new guy comes along and take over the reins.

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          #14
          Yes, because Haymon & PBC monopolized the division and purposely locked Crawford out.

          Now, folks are holding Crawford to a standard after winning in July that they didn't hold Spence to for 4 or 5 years.

          I do think Bud should either defend his belts or move up.

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          • jqSide
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            #15
            Originally posted by Mammoth
            The era just ended with Crawford-Spence. Give it some time to rebuild. Boots and Stanionis are the best guys out there currently.
            They were available for each other and had chances to fight on multiple occasions. Fight never materialize.

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              #16
              Originally posted by jqSide
              They were available for each other and had chances to fight on multiple occasions. Fight never materialize.
              I think when they both have titles it will happen

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                #17
                Originally posted by jqSide
                They were available for each other and had chances to fight on multiple occasions. Fight never materialize.
                I give Stannionis a pass because he was slated to fight Vergil Ortiz 4 times and something came up every time.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by anonymous2.0
                  I give Stannionis a pass because he was slated to fight Vergil Ortiz 4 times and something came up every time.
                  There was a window of several months before the Ortiz/Stanionis fight was ordered. Both Stanionis and Ennis were fighting on PBC cards. Eimantas, being promoted by Schaefer at that time, didn't even want to fight on a GBP card. You know, Schaefer has history of double crossing Oscar. Stanionis was pressing for offers from PBC. It never came. Stan was going after Spence for his mandatory, just like Ennis.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bullrider
                    It's a 4-belt era. Just imagine being allowed to defend one belt for one year.
                    Plus they were fighting only once a year.

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                      #20
                      It was very overrated during the Crawford/Spence/Porter/D Garcia/Thurman era. Fighters like Thurman/D Garcia/Porter were **** average in reality, but because Welterweight was the only division Americans dominated , it became the glamour division.

                      Crawford proved to be far ahead of the rest..

                      And now the best American talent is at lightweight and light welterweight so 147 is being forgotten about.

                      I don't think Crawford has long left or might move up to 147

                      So the divisions future is probably Eimantis Stanionis, Jaron Ennis, Cody Crowley, Conor Benn, Paddy Donovan. And they'll need to actually fight each other to get some hype back into the division

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