Comments Thread For: Mayweather Hints At Pacquiao Exhibition

[dan-b]

He did say that, ad naseum.

I'm not sure about that but in any case, the word obviously didn't match the deed.

It's a fruitless discussion. You either liked what he did or you didn't. A lot of it, in my opinion, comes down to how much one worships money and material possessions. Then criticism of the guy can be characterised as jealousy of those things. It's been run enough times for me to see that. And also to see that those invested in the guy always have an excuse for him.

These modern day undefeated records are largely a product of inactivity (which clearly reduces risk) and cynical matchmaking.

[dan-b]

Smart decisions are about the business as he said, could be the purse could be the deal cut could be the contract could be the back end of merchandise etc etc, its actually about the making of money, you automatically equate it to the opponent because of your predisposition, subconsciously you have Floyd stereotyped and set in stone and it shows in your phrasing and chosen words.

I have said quite openly I found his boxing career underwhelming. We can all play the "subconscious" card; it's quite obvious to me you're in awe of the guy. There's no way to bridge the gap between someone who is in awe and someone who is underwhelmed.

[Roadblock]

Probably because it's a waste of energy "debating" something so subjective and you're not that important.

If you think Floyd is the best, why do you care what other people think? You can use any metric you like, it won't change the fact I found the guy to be a dull businessman.

Could be they don't want to get drowned in the deep end, because all the BS narrative about Floyd doesn't stack up when you start comparing him with others of the same era, fans are full of sht all they want to do is hate, and its not just Floyd its all fighters, and I hate haters, just so happens Im slapping Floyd haters often because he has so many.

I don't think Floyd is the best, I think he was the best of his era, I think he had the best resume of his era, I think he fought the best guys of his era and the few he didn't fight he beat the guys that beat them, and its all easily proven when you compare him to other in the same time, TBE and all that is Floyd selling himself it means nothing but if he believes that well more power to him, pretty much all the real greats think it just they not vocal about it.

[Roadblock]

I have said quite openly I found his boxing career underwhelming. We can all play the "subconscious" card; it's quite obvious to me you're in awe of the guy. There's no way to bridge the gap between someone who is in awe and someone who is underwhelmed.

What do you mean underwhelmed compared to whom from the same era, it has no meaning without a water mark to reference against, Ive followed the sport for going on 60yrs and you think Im in awe lol , they are all just athletes to me, racehorses performing and I just look at the clock, Im not no modern wet behind the ears fanboy Im very well versed in boxing and can easily put Floyds career into perspective, he was the best fighter of his era its not a bold statement.

[dan-b]

What do you mean underwhelmed compared to whom from the same era, it has no meaning without a water mark to reference against, Ive followed the sport for going on 60yrs and you think Im in awe lol , they are all just athletes to me, racehorses performing and I just look at the clock, Im not no modern wet behind the ears fanboy Im very well versed in boxing and can easily put Floyds career into perspective, he was the best fighter of his era its not a bold statement.

You've inserted an unnecessary condition. Doesn't have to be a comparison. I found the guy an all round bore, I don't need to justify that with some quantifiable metric.

Are we done? Or do you require anything else from me?

[Roadblock]

You've inserted an unnecessary condition. Doesn't have to be a comparison. I found the guy an all round bore, I don't need to justify that with some quantifiable metric.

Are we done? Or do you require anything else from me?

Which is exactly what I said in the first post.

"you automatically equate it to the opponent because of your predisposition, subconsciously you have Floyd stereotyped and set in stone and it shows in your phrasing and chosen words."

I don't require anything from you I already know what Im dealing with.

[dan-b]

I don't require anything from you I already know what Im dealing with.

I will tell you directly what you are dealing with, there is no innuendo necessary.

My professional life, and much of my cultural life by default, is dominated by cynical materialism. I don't drink, smoke, take drugs or watch any other sports. Boxing is a form of escapism for me, one I have enjoyed since a teenager. I love the history and have always had a particular interest in the titles - as some of my posts/threads have shown. I want to see the best fight the best and have little interest in "A side/split" arguments, which I generally interpret as an excuse to not fight, whoever's making it.

You are dealing with someone who found Floyd Mayweather intensely boring during his career. His fights: boring. His rationalistations for opponent selection: boring. His garish exhibitions of wealth: boring. When someone like this dominates the sport you otherwise enjoy it's difficult not to resent that person. I am glad he's retired, don't miss him and thankfully only have to think about him when I have these somewhat embarrassing exchanges on the internet with strangers who appear to revere him,

I will feel exactly the same once Tyson Fury has retired - which is hopefully after losing his next fight. I hope this clarifies things for you.

[Haka]

Could be they don't want to get drowned in the deep end, because all the BS narrative about Floyd doesn't stack up when you start comparing him with others of the same era, fans are full of sht all they want to do is hate, and its not just Floyd its all fighters, and I hate haters, just so happens Im slapping Floyd haters often because he has so many.

I don't think Floyd is the best, I think he was the best of his era, I think he had the best resume of his era, I think he fought the best guys of his era and the few he didn't fight he beat the guys that beat them, and its all easily proven when you compare him to other in the same time, TBE and all that is Floyd selling himself it means nothing but if he believes that well more power to him, pretty much all the real greats think it just they not vocal about it.

Lara, PWilliams, Margarito, Cotto, Pac, Tszyu, Mosley.

When these guys were at the top of their powers, those fights never got made. Always a stinker for the fans. Or a retirement, or an excuse, or a catchweight. You have no problem with this. If we go with triangle theories than Beterbiev > Ali.

[WholeSoul75]

And that's how you marinate a rematch....pac always made him move funny like no other fighter

[djtmal]

Only the 0 was the result of beating the best of his era;

he beat the best of his era, at their worst

unless you talking about Conor McGregor

only fighter you can really say that about