Cotto's Trainer Says Sparring is Key To Beat Pacquiao

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  • Freddy Krueger
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    #11
    Cotto needs to spar with Margacheato!!! He needs to put the demons to rest once and for all. That would make a great movie, but this is real-life so I doubt they would spar with each other plus I don't even know if Margs allowed to spar with anyone being temp banned at the time being.

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    • prsi
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      #12
      Originally posted by King Jaffe Joffer
      If thats true then Cotto is in trouble.. Those bums Cotto is sparring with cant emulate Pacman at all.. While Pac on the other hand has quality sparring partners that can fight like Cotto..(which isnt that hard btw)
      Originally posted by jetgeomcx
      sparring is the key,.....yeah ryt!
      reason why cotto will lose because he can't get sparmates that can mimmick manny.
      Originally posted by arraamis
      Sparring is great for working on the things that are deficient - But, Unless they found a 5'6" southpaw dynamo that fights like Pac-Man - sparring isn't the answer to beating the real thing.

      What Cotto needs for this fight is a very good gameplan - One that eliminates his habit of backward movement during fights. Because if he gives Pac the forward momentum round to round, Manny is going to pick his bones clean.

      I really hope that this fight doesn't show the different level of training and trainers.
      Originally posted by SekondzOut
      its not easy to find sparring partners to play Pac.....Calderon and Zab maybe.....but who else is out there that can go at Cotto like Manny is going to go at him?!?.....release the names for gods sake!!! .....I still got the Boricua ****er by stoppage......too big!!
      At the top level that these 2 boxes are there will be no sparring partner that will equal what they will face in the ring on Nov 14.

      True that Pacman will be more difficult to emulate because speed is something that you have to be born with and develop. It is not something that you can emulate if you don't have it and we all know that Pacman speed is amoung the top 3 best in the sport.
      Cotto style is a little "easier to try to emulate but none of the sparring partners of Pacman will bring what Cotto will bring to the ring. A lot has been said about Porter. Probably he will be great fighter and then again probably not, but he doesn't have the experience of Cotto and if somebody will bring the Porter experience as an amateur please remember that Cotto as a great amateur background also. Cotto has been a boxer that has fought a lot of different stlyes in the ring and has been able to adjust. he has brawled with brawlers and have won, he has faced fast well skilled boxers and has beat them with his boxing skill and his quick hands also. He has faced difficult, dirty, uncomfortable defensive boxers and has managed to come out with a W, not to mention the times he has been in tremendous adversity by being rocked and almost ko, cut almost bleeding to death while not being able to see properly and still find he way thru. Probably the only thing that he couldn't adjust to was the "plaster".

      Bottom line is that boxers always try to train against similar style and stronger and bigger opponents than the one they are facing in the fight, which is great and helps, but it wont guarantee a victory, it is what you do in the fight with your skills and how you adjust to your opponent, that will eventually give you the victory.

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      • arraamis
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        #13
        Originally posted by prsi
        At the top level that these 2 boxes are there will be no sparring partner that will equal what they will face in the ring on Nov 14.

        True that Pacman will be more difficult to emulate because speed is something that you have to be born with and develop. It is not something that you can emulate if you don't have it and we all know that Pacman speed is amoung the top 3 best in the sport.
        Cotto style is a little "easier to try to emulate but none of the sparring partners of Pacman will bring what Cotto will bring to the ring. A lot has been said about Porter. Probably he will be great fighter and then again probably not, but he doesn't have the experience of Cotto and if somebody will bring the Porter experience as an amateur please remember that Cotto as a great amateur background also. Cotto has been a boxer that has fought a lot of different stlyes in the ring and has been able to adjust. he has brawled with brawlers and have won, he has faced fast well skilled boxers and has beat them with his boxing skill and his quick hands also. He has faced difficult, dirty, uncomfortable defensive boxers and has managed to come out with a W, not to mention the times he has been in tremendous adversity by being rocked and almost ko, cut almost bleeding to death while not being able to see properly and still find he way thru. Probably the only thing that he couldn't adjust to was the "plaster".

        Bottom line is that boxers always try to train against similar style and stronger and bigger opponents than the one they are facing in the fight, which is great and helps, but it wont guarantee a victory, it is what you do in the fight with your skills and how you adjust to your opponent, that will eventually give you the victory.
        Good Points .....

        Something else, that will play a big factor in this fight is the QUALITY of the corner. I'm anxious to see how Cotto's corner handle the difficulties encountered with an opponent like Pac-man.

        Because if I were to rate the corners of each:

        Pac's Corner = 9.5
        Cotto's = 7 +/-

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          #14
          the reason as to why u have different sparring partners is because u cant have just ONE that will emulate everything ur next opponent will do. So get different partners to work on different things. look at this case here. Cotto "has" Calderon, a little elusive guy to work on that area. While PAC has a 160+ partner to emulate the strength cotto will be hitting with. Sparring IS very important, but it doesnt mean it will go exactly like the fight. Boxers spar to work on certain things and conditioning, it's not like they spar to make it a 12round war

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          • JOM'S
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            #15
            as sparring partners goes IMHO pac has an advatage and is getting more work from the spars...

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              #16
              Is it true that Zab Judah is a sparring partner for Cotto? That's hard to believe after the beating Cotto gave him.

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                #17
                Originally posted by rao007
                Is it true that Zab Judah is a sparring partner for Cotto? That's hard to believe after the beating Cotto gave him.
                Zab Judah and Cotto are friends in real-life, maybe not I'll take a bullet for you type of friends. But hey look I got a new shorty*girl for you kind of friends.

                But really, Judah and Malignaggi will help Cotto if he asks for their help. Both of them are rooting for him to win because it makes them look better for losing to Cotto even though Cotto is already good.

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                  #18
                  I think Cotto has more of good chance to beat Manny. I think this
                  fight will indeed be more exciting and competitve than Floyd/Marquez.
                  But there is a chance with the right Cotto solid punch this fight could
                  be over and if Cotto tucks his head in his defense and comes forward
                  with his chin Manny could rock him like Judah did in the early rounds.
                  I remember Emmanuel Steward saying all Zab had to do is counter
                  with the right because Cotto is open for that punch all night but Zab
                  got pressured. Cotto has to take into consideration that Manny is
                  way more disciplined and conditioned than Zab Judah and he has to
                  display more defense because Roach will be looking for every loop
                  hole in Cotto's fight game.

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                  • prsi
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by arraamis
                    Good Points .....

                    Something else, that will play a big factor in this fight is the QUALITY of the corner. I'm anxious to see how Cotto's corner handle the difficulties encountered with an opponent like Pac-man.

                    Because if I were to rate the corners of each:

                    Pac's Corner = 9.5
                    Cotto's = 7 +/-
                    Very well said,
                    As a Cotto fan, that is one of my biggest concerns, I totally agree with you.
                    Pacman has a huge advantage in that aspect with Freddie Roach.
                    As a matter a fact, I beleive you were humble on Cotto's corners ratings. LOL.

                    Cotto my rely on his own knowledge skills and experience more than what his corner would probably help him. Pacman won't have that problem.

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                    • mikelovesfood
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jetgeomcx
                      In his words, manny said: .....
                      "If I press the fight, I'm sure he'll run. And if I wait, he'll come in".

                      freddie has great battle plans for both scenarios.
                      it is expected tha manny will bring the fyt to cotto.
                      but if cotto press more during the early rounds, cotto will run smack into pac's left where his feet are firmly set...like the flushed shot that sent rickyto dreamland!
                      cotto better have good defense to hide his chin when he comes in!
                      cotto tucks his chin. hatton does not.

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