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  • #41
    Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
    Haney does everything better than Garcia.
    Ryan takes a knee better...

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    • #42
      Originally posted by boogbx View Post
      Ryan was exposed to be as weak minded as Victor Ortiz.

      Ryan also isn’t as durable as Prograis. Haney knocks him out in 10 or less.
      Big prediction being that Haney hasnt knocked anyone out in his last 8 fights

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      • #43
        Originally posted by famicommander View Post
        Haney vs world titlists as a pro (full titlists only, no interim or regular):
        W vs Yuriorkis Gamboa UD 12
        W vs Jorge Linares UD 12
        W vs Joseph Diaz UD 12
        W vs George Kambosos UD 12
        W vs George Kambosos UD 12
        W vs Vasiliy Lomachenko UD 12 (I scored this one a draw myself, many scored it for Loma, but it's top level experience in any case)
        W vs Regis Prograis UD 12

        Garcia vs world titlists as a pro (again, no interim on regular):
        L vs Gervonta Davis KO 7

        Haney has fought 7 consecutive fights going back to 2019 against guys that won legitimate world titles in their careers. Linares and Gamboa were washed and you can argue about the results of the Lomachenko fight, but that still leaves him with solid wins over Kambosos twice, Prograis, and Jojo Diaz. Garcia stepped up once and quit.
        Luka Campbell is better than everyone Haney fought at the time he fought them besides Lomachenko. Haney lost that fight vs Lomachenko in my eyes. So Ryan Garcias win over Campbell is better than every Haney win.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

          What % chance to win do you deem a "good chance"?

          I think Ryan is a skilled guy, but he's looking more basic as hes gone up in class is the thing I'm seeing. He got dropped by the not known as a big puncher Campbell, he got stopped by Tank & he didn't look great vs this last guy for most of the fight.

          I also think Ryan lacks focus & the drive to succeed at this level of the game. Hes all over the place & lackadaisical in a lot of the media he does. Not like a guy dedicated to his craft like a Floyd, Shakur or Devin when I hear them talk boxing.

          Thing is Ryan does have power & Devin's chin still has question marks on it best case from that Linares fight. So sh^t can happen here obviously but this feels like a 80/20 Devin fight to me which I personally wouldn't consider being in the good chance to win range for Ryan.
          I give Ryan Garcia a 35% chance of winning
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          • #45
            Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
            Haney does everything better than Garcia.
            He doesnt have anywhere near the power

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            • #46
              Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

              Luka Campbell is better than everyone Haney fought at the time he fought them besides Lomachenko. Haney lost that fight vs Lomachenko in my eyes. So Ryan Garcias win over Campbell is better than every Haney win.
              Luke Campbell had two good wins in his whole career and lost both of his title challenges. Haney took belts off reigning world titlists, including the guy who took the titles off Lopez, who himself took them off Lomachenko.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by famicommander View Post

                Luke Campbell had two good wins in his whole career and lost both of his title challenges. Haney took belts off reigning world titlists, including the guy who took the titles off Lopez, who himself took them off Lomachenko.
                Ok Campbell is still better than Kambosos

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

                  Ok Campbell is still better than Kambosos
                  Kambosos has wins as an underdog road B-side against Teofimo Lopez, Mickey Bey, and Lee Selby. Those three wins alone are better than Campbell's entire career.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by famicommander View Post

                    Kambosos has wins as an underdog road B-side against Teofimo Lopez, Mickey Bey, and Lee Selby. Those three wins alone are better than Campbell's entire career.
                    3 split decision wins

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

                      3 split decision wins
                      Did you watch the fights? The Bey fight was close and ugly but there was no reason the Selby or Lopez fights should've been split decisions. He won them decisively and nearly got robbed both times because he was the unknown road b-side guy.
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