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Ryan Garcia has a good chance of beating Devin Haney

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  • #31
    Yeah right. Ryan trying to cash out. Stop trying to develop as a fighter after that Luke Campbell scare

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    • #32
      This fight will be dictated if Haney's power will be able to get Ryan's attention. If it does Ryan will get out boxed, if it doesn't Ryan will force him to trade and anything can happen.
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      • #33
        amateurs you only get 3 rounds and its usually decision wins, because going for a KO puts you at huge risk to just get countered a bunch with lower risk arm punches. so it favors a certain style and doesnt really mean much for guys fighting 5-10 years later as pros with 10 or 12 rounds.

        Garcia might win some early rounds, i could see it with his speed, which for amateurs sure that wins him the fight, but he has leaky defense, Haney should have an easy night, he will be 165 pounds which negates Ryans power advantages and he will just hug him to death if he has to. I guess its not a bad fight, atleast makes haney work, not impressed with him picking guys with cement feet that are tailor made for him and acting like its a big win.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by dan-b View Post
          I hope Haney trains for power, stands in the pocket and knocks Garcia out.


          Haney is really ***ed for power. 48% KO ratio and that is with him having a huge size advantage on guys. He moved up a weight class and still had what 10 pounds on his opponent ? He tried sitting down more last fight, he still has no power. Hes only 25 and cant make 140 for much longer, he will have even less power at 147 and 154. Once he gets in with a pressure/swarmer that is his actual size and has no regard for his punches he is in for a rude awakening.

          For comparison, mayweather before going to 147 had a KO ratio of 68% and he was a lot smaller weight wise than haney, 15 pounds smaller at this point in their careers

          Haney is lucky he is young and can cut 25 pounds. could you imagine him at 154 with a big ***er like tim tszyu who is going to walk right through him with no respect for his punches?
          Last edited by elfag; 02-20-2024, 10:11 AM.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by elfag View Post
            amateurs you only get 3 rounds and its usually decision wins, because going for a KO puts you at huge risk to just get countered a bunch with lower risk arm punches. so it favors a certain style and doesnt really mean much for guys fighting 5-10 years later as pros with 10 or 12 rounds.

            Garcia might win some early rounds, i could see it with his speed, which for amateurs sure that wins him the fight, but he has leaky defense, Haney should have an easy night, he will be 165 pounds which negates Ryans power advantages and he will just hug him to death if he has to. I guess its not a bad fight, atleast makes haney work, not impressed with him picking guys with cement feet that are tailor made for him and acting like its a big win.
            Not sure who negotiates ( anymore ) for Ryan but the fact that no rehydration clause was thought upon is beyond me
            If Haney was a normal rehydrated fighter fine but the fact he balloons to super middleweight is crazy imo
            Any advantage Ryan had , goes out the window and I gave him minimal chance of winning
            I believe his courage comes from winning those three fights as an amateur but that won’t be of any help here
            Dying to hear his excuses cause God knows there’s going to be a couple

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            • #36
              Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

              Not sure who negotiates ( anymore ) for Ryan but the fact that no rehydration clause was thought upon is beyond me
              If Haney was a normal rehydrated fighter fine but the fact he balloons to super middleweight is crazy imo
              Any advantage Ryan had , goes out the window and I gave him minimal chance of winning
              I believe his courage comes from winning those three fights as an amateur but that won’t be of any help here
              Dying to hear his excuses cause God knows there’s going to be a couple

              Yeah I think Ryan can win some early rounds, on paper he has advantages in speed and power, Haney has the better defense. Ryan should be able to do well on paper but I think that he will get frustrated that the win doesnt come easy, if haney falls behind on rounds he will spoil, hug him to death and ryan will get sloppy and wreckless. He quit against Tank rather than take more punishment, he dont have the heart for intense fights, he wants easy wins. If Haneys team is smart they are already strategizing on how to use his weight advantage, lots of clinching early, leaning on Garcia to tire him and slow him down for the later rounds.


              Like I said in the post above I think Haney is ***ed once he cant make these lower weights, they will carefully manage his career. So much of him depends on his weight cuts, it was like Hatton once he couldnt make 140 anymore he was done because he had nothing to bother guys who were his same weight. A guy like Tim Tszyu who is used to fighting big guys with power, will feel haneys love taps and run right over him.
              Last edited by elfag; 02-20-2024, 10:26 AM.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by elfag View Post


                Yeah I think Ryan can win some early rounds, on paper he has advantages in speed and power, Haney has the better defense. Ryan should be able to do well on paper but I think that he will get frustrated that the win doesnt come easy, if haney falls behind on rounds he will spoil, hug him to death and ryan will get sloppy and wreckless. He quit against Tank rather than take more punishment, he dont have the heart for intense fights, he wants easy wins. If Haneys team is smart they are already strategizing on how to use his weight advantage, lots of clinching early, leaning on Garcia to tire him and slow him down for the later rounds.
                If the same Haney who fought Regis is coming , Ryan is in for a very long night
                And like we’ve already mentioned , his weight advantage and I’m almost sure the huggy Haney will come about sometime in the fight unless Ryan can’t handle his power
                This imo , will be Ryan’s second loss and not wise matchmaking
                They could of found someone else but then again Ryan getting fooled by his new best friend Floyd , kind of made that harder to be

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                • #38
                  Hopefully we get tough close fight with an immediate rematch. Much respect to both these guys for making fights happen
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                  • #39
                    I think Haney is a bit overrated. He wont have a speed advantage vs Garcia. The fact that Haney doesnt have much pop, will make the fight competitive in my eyes.
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                    • #40
                      Haney does everything better than Garcia.

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