Comments Thread For: Teofimo Lopez's Inconsistency is His Consistent: Weekend Afterthoughts

[TheOneAboveAll]

You put up the first fight between Leonard and Duran. This was to show what boxing should "Really look like". But in doing so, you put up a fighter who did basically the same thing in the rematch with Duran as Ortiz did with Lopez. Surely you've seen the rematch? Therefore, it's very ironic.

I just told you that Ray Leonard never once in his entire career fought like Jamaine Ortiz did this past weekend; not in the first, second or third Duran fight - or any other fight of SRL’s entire career. You’re making me question if you’ve ever actually seen any SRL fight.

[TheOneAboveAll]

He can't cut the ring off properly. What else is there to say? Why, against whom did he do so? Consistently too. I don't want examples of when his opponent was tired or what not. If Canelo can do so, there should be plenty of examples against proper opposition.

You just said the reason Canelo can’t cut off the ring on his opponents should be obvious to anyone who’s seen those fights (which fight?). I asked you to explain. You didn’t, then decided to deflect and put it on me to explain why I think he can. You’re like some weirdo who can’t resist commenting with b******t, but then lacks the energy to follow through and defend your inane arguments. You’ve been doing this for quite a while.

[MulaKO]

Cliff Rold articles used to be worth reading because he use to offer some actual insider insights. Now he just summarizes Boxingscene forum comments. Teofimo could've fought smarter, but 117-111 was a generous score for Ortiz.

Anyone who appreciated/tolerated what Jamaine Ortiz did last week needs a refresher on what this sport is supposed to be about.

Exhibit A.

By the way the 117/111 score was for Teo
All three cards had him winning

[Roadblock]

Lopez' real problem is his trainer. Teo's game has holes in it. A real trainer would have taught him how to cut the ring off.

He can cut the ring just has a hard time doing it with a guy who is so much faster, Teo is a puncher first and foremost, I wouldn't put him near another fleet-footed opponent after he showed he cant handle them the first time he seen one, building a top fighter is about as much match-making as it is fighting, put Ortiz in with Matias and see what happens.

[MulaKO]

No one mentions Lopez turning his back when he was getting hit, Ortiz hitting with **** whenever he tried to corner him. Lopez was not cutting off the ring because he was getting hit hard with shots and he backed off many times. Lopez is always looking for the big punch to hurt his opponent. He is not a great boxer. Great athlete and reflexes. But very low boxing IQ.

Low boxing iq without doubt , can’t or doesn’t know how to cut the ring and only knows to headhunt
Yes not one or the other did excite but I would of thought that Teo would at least use his jab ( another thing he lacks or wasn’t willing to do ) and hit the body for him to slow Ortiz down
He’s far from great and would drastically get exposed against Bud if he really wanted that challenge

[MulaKO]

He can cut the ring just has a hard time doing it with a guy who is so much faster, Teo is a puncher first and foremost, I wouldn't put him near another fleet-footed opponent after he showed he cant handle them the first time he seen one, building a top fighter is as about much match-making as it is fighting, put Ortiz in with Matias and see what happens.

Matias would be the right opponent for Teo
Thats for sure , he’s there for the taking

[TheOneAboveAll]

By the way the 117/111 score was for Teo
All three cards had him winning

I know that. I think 111 was very generous to Ortiz. I personally gave him one clear round, and two tie rounds (119-111). He gave a shameful performance in my view.

[Roadblock]

Matias would be the right opponent for Teo
Thats for sure , he’s there for the taking

Yeah I reckon so that win would be a shootout and give him back a lot of credibility, Teo is good he just cant handle movers and he doesn't mentally hold it together, I think in a real battle Teo would be much better suited and would thrive in kind of fight , his ol man is probably matchmaking and its not smart selections.

[MulaKO]

I know that. I think 111 was very generous to Ortiz. I personally gave him one clear round, and two tie rounds (119-111). He gave a shameful performance in my view.

One is not better than the other
I scored it and I had a total different score
I figured they would declare it a draw as no one really won that fight imo , but if I had to give the fight to someone , Ortiz would of won imo

[MulaKO]

Yeah I reckon so that win would be a shootout and give him back a lot of credibility, Teo is good he just cant handle movers and he doesn't mentally hold it together, I think in a real battle Teo would be much better suited and would thrive in kind of fight , his ol man is probably matchmaking and its not smart selections.

Far from smart but it is what it is , Teo can’t fight true boxers is what it is
He needs someone to stand in front of him and not move to much
He really is quite transparent