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  • Toffee
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    #31
    Originally posted by Monty Fisto

    This is true -- but you have to admit the proximity of the Ngannou fight to the purported date for the December fight with Usyk was just asking for trouble.
    Both fighters have acknowledged that the December date was agreed and to be announced in the ring. Until Fury got embarrassed.

    Not many people thought he would really be fighting in December after Ngannou. Even if it had been a walk in the park.

    Even at two weeks out I doubted the February date and wouldn't buy the PPV yet.

    I'm placing zero faith in him fighting in May. I might believe it if he weighs in. I can't see it though.

    For what it's worth I don't think he's strategic. His withdrawals don't have to make sense. He just does whatever he wants and takes pleasure in watching others adjust their lives to chase him down.
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    • Cyborg Fangerloo
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      #32
      I read the title of this article and then knew that it was time for people to make up ****** nicknames about him and say tons of mean things.
      To be clear, I don't believe anything he says and I am quite sick of his antics because he Does not fight the people he should, but here comes the vitriol

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      • MulaKO
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        #33
        Originally posted by KillaCamNZ
        Fury is a great personality and the best heavyweight right now, but no one should be putting any stock in anything he says. He's a habitual liar.

        The big story would him actually doing something he said he would do.
        The mma guy begs to differ lol

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        • JLC
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          #34
          Originally posted by Monty Fisto
          Fury in August 2023: "Who knows how long I've got left. Maybe not long..... maybe a year, maybe two years, maybe one fight, who knows."
          Fury in October 2023: "What happens in the future stays in the future. I’m living for today and this moment."
          Fury Febraury 2023: I've got five fights mapped out and I'm in my prime.


          The real question he still has to answer is why he took the Ngannou fight rather than give all fight fans what they wanted, which was the Usyk fight for undisputed.
          Money is the reason.

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          • hugh grant
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            #35
            Originally posted by theface07

            That would be great but Fury would never take that chance even though Zhang is old. He would have to get KO'd for Fury to want to fight him at this point. He'd never get over losing to a 40+ boxer.
            I dunno.If Zhang beats parker, who is fury s friend, fury might need revenge.
            If public demand it, never say never. Zhang beat joyce and fury always said he'd give Joyce a shot at him.

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            • Toffee
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              #36
              Originally posted by JLC

              Money is the reason.
              Ok that's obviously why he fought Ngannou at all.

              But why did he take the Ngannou fight less than two months before an undisputed fight?

              Or why did he take the undisputed fight less than two months after the Ngannou fight?

              The answer to those isn't money. The answer has to be that he had no intention of fighting for undisputed in December and was just dragging Usyk along.

              The only alternative answer is that he really thought he could stay in camp after Ngannou and fight Usyk less than two months later... but we know that's not true surely?

              Which is it?

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              • Boro
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                #37
                Originally posted by juggernaut666

                Fury already planned to fight Ngannou months before the original Skills Challenge Saudi fight he pulled out of so ? That’s why when he tried to sabotage that fight he lost it when Usyk accepted the 70/30 low ball offer to fight in Wembley,he was running out of excuses to get that Ngannou fight made he’s just lucky Usyk decided he had enough and pulled the plug that time but afterwards he know it was a cherry pick gone wrong ( shades of Wilder ) .Lol
                Do you think things through before typing, Klimas and Krassyuk both admitted they didn't even negotiate the April/Wembley date/fight despite the fact Usyk publicly accepted it.

                It means absolutely nothing for him to say "I accept" on social media.

                When both his manager and promoter have openly admitted to not engaging with the Warrens on said fight after the Dubois fight but at the point the damage was already done to Furys and Warrens already abysmal reputation...

                It's curious how none of you seem to keep the same energy for Usyk as you do Fury they've both ducked the fight on different ocassion but only one of them gets flak for it...

                A bit of moral consistency would be nice when it comes both praise and critique of these fighters but that would require moral integrity and also not being a hater/fanboy.

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                • Toffee
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Boro

                  Do you think things through before typing, Klimas and Krassyuk both admitted they didn't even negotiate the April/Wembley date/fight despite the fact Usyk publicly accepted it.

                  It means absolutely nothing for him to say "I accept" on social media.

                  When both his manager and promoter have openly admitted to not engaging with the Warrens on said fight after the Dubois fight but at the point the damage was already done to Furys and Warrens already abysmal reputation...

                  It's curious how none of you seem to keep the same energy for Usyk as you do Fury they've both ducked the fight on different ocassion but only one of them gets flak for it...

                  A bit of moral consistency would be nice when it comes both praise and critique of these fighters but that would require moral integrity and also not being a hater/fanboy.
                  I'm a bit of a Fury hater. But it's for no reason other than the games he plays. Back in the day I was a fan, based on his ability and potential.

                  Krassyuk didn't say they didn't even negotiate for an April Wembley fight. He said they were in negotiations and pulled out when it was clear that Fury kept moving the commercial goalposts and was lying about being in camp for a fight in close to a month's time. Remember when Sugar Hill blew the story by saying he was with Okolie? Fury was never in for that fight, so they stopped negotiating with him.

                  You could argue for Fury in that case. He didn't withdraw. But then he very rarely does. He frustrates, he delays, and he lies. Then he blames the other guy for walking away.

                  As I said in another thread, there's every chance that there were some individual instances that actually weren't Fury's fault... but there's close to zero chance that none of these constant issues were his fault. He's the common element.
                  Last edited by Toffee; 02-07-2024, 06:56 PM.

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                    #39
                    New drug regiment? I mean wild boar meat? Foh

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                    • Boro
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Toffee

                      I'm a bit of a Fury hater. But it's for no reason other than the games he plays. Back in the day I was a fan, based on his ability and potential.

                      Krassyuk didn't say they didn't even negotiate for an April Wembley fight. He said they were in negotiations and pulled out when it was clear that Fury kept moving the commercial goalposts and was lying about being in camp for a fight in close to a month's time. Remember when Sugar Hill blew the story by saying he was with Okolie? Fury was never in for that fight, so they stopped negotiating with him.

                      You could argue for Fury in that case. He didn't withdraw. But then he very rarely does. He frustrates, he delays, and he lies. Then he blames the other guy for walking away.

                      As I said in another thread, there's every chance that there were some individual instances that actually weren't Fury's fault... but there's close to zero chance that none of these constant issues were his fault. He's the common element.
                      Why would he care about commercial demands of Fury it's his promoters and managers jobs to meet those demands not his.

                      And also it's not his business to worry about if Fury is in camp or not, it's in Usyk's favour for Fury to not be in camp and them to sign to fight sooner rather than later...

                      And of course I remember Sugar Hill claiming Fury wasn't in camp but I also remember them claiming Fury rolled his ankle badly before the Wilder fight, their team is known for all sorts of shenanigans and skullduggery.

                      Truth be told they could tell you the sun was out in the desert in the middle of the day and you'd be inclined to check for yourself...
                      Last edited by Boro; 02-07-2024, 07:13 PM.

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