Comments Thread For: Conor Benn: I Decapitated Vargas, Van Heerden Better Than Boots and Vergil Ortiz - There's Your Measuring Stick!

[IronDanHamza]

So what's it restarting then if it isn't restarting the process and you've said this multiple times, if it's starting a "new" one it's not restarting...

"Depending on the status of the individual, the appeal may be heard by the NADP Appeal Tribunal or the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS)."

This is directly from UKADs website we can all quote websites to back up arguments it doesn't mean anything...

No one is confused apart from you, as i've pointed out multiple times and now seemingly you're getting confused by your own words...

The decison, they'll restart the process on the decision I.e change the decison.

No the CAS may be brought in the case of an appeal of the hearing decison, not the hearing itself.

No you are clearly both very confused and also misinformed.

I've explained to you three times now how the process of failing a drug test goes in the UK. I'll tell you again and see if you get it this time;


Fighter fails drug test, fighter admits wrong doing and is given a ban via UKAD

or

Fighter fails drug test, fighter claims innocence (99% of cases hence why the UKAD website says “likely” in regards to NADP) hearing is scheduled with UKAD via the NADP, the NADP makes the decision.

That is the process of a drug testing hearing. Which Conor Benn has done, and won.

They've (UKAD and the BBBoC) decided to appeal that decision, and we'll see how that goes this month.

I genuinely don't know how I can make that easier to understand.

[Boro]

The decison, they'll restart the process on the decision I.e change the decison.

No the CAS may be brought in the case of an appeal of the hearing decison, not the hearing itself.

No you are clearly both very confused and also misinformed.

I've explained to you three times now how the process of failing a drug test goes in the UK. I'll tell you again and see if you get it this time;


Fighter fails drug test, fighter admits wrong doing and is given a ban via UKAD

or

Fighter fails drug test, fighter claims innocence (99% of cases hence why the UKAD website says “likely” in regards to NADP) hearing is scheduled with UKAD via the NADP, the NADP makes the decision.

That is the process of a drug testing hearing. Which Conor Benn has done, and won.

They've (UKAD and the BBBoC) decided to appeal that decision, and we'll see how that goes this month.

I genuinely don't know how I can make that easier to understand.

This conversation is redundant, you clearly don't understand an appeal process in arbitration (in general truth be known) and just have a need to be right like a fúcking female.

It is important to note that an appeal cannot be made simply because one party is unhappy with the decision made by the arbitrator. There must be a valid legal reason for the appeal, Arbitration can only be appealed under very strict guidelines and they're -

• The arbitrator lacked jurisdiction to make the award.
• The award was made in breach of natural justice.
• The arbitrator acted improperly or exceeded his or her powers.
• The award is in conflict with public policy.

He hasn't won anything, you can keep repeating it like a díckhead but it doesn't make it true the appeal is the continuation of the process and they will NOT rehear his case at best it starts a new process(es) with a whole new body which starts him down another rabbit hole.

And like I've already implied drawing it closer to the 2 year mark and him getting backdated ban and continuing on with his career, like he hasn't been juiced to his gills since the Peynaud fight...

[IronDanHamza]

This conversation is redundant, you clearly don't understand an appeal process in arbitration (in general truth be known) and just have a need to be right like a fúcking female.

It is important to note that an appeal cannot be made simply because one party is unhappy with the decision made by the arbitrator. There must be a valid legal reason for the appeal, Arbitration can only be appealed under very strict guidelines and they're -

• The arbitrator lacked jurisdiction to make the award.
• The award was made in breach of natural justice.
• The arbitrator acted improperly or exceeded his or her powers.
• The award is in conflict with public policy.

He hasn't won anything, you can keep repeating it like a dÃckhead but it doesn't make it true the appeal is the continuation of the process and they will NOT rehear his case at best it starts a new process(es) with a whole new body which starts him down another rabbit hole.

And like I've already implied drawing it closer to the 2 year mark and him getting backdated ban and continuing on with his career, like he hasn't been juiced to his gills since the Peynaud fight...

I can't make it any clearer to you that he had a hearing and won that said hearing. The fact he won it is the reason they've appealed it, because they are unhappy about the decision and I'm sure they will present why on the appeal date.

None of that changes the fact he had his hearing and won it.

[BlackRobb]

After yesterday, I think Conor Benn might want to re-evaluate his life! Maybe David Avenesyan is better opponent for him, or maybe Josh Taylor?

I'd have to agree. He's not the same off the juice. Josh Taylor has one foot in retirement and has always been petrified of 147.

[Smash]

the runny joke has lost his pop

[Boro]

I can't make it any clearer to you that he had a hearing and won that said hearing. The fact he won it is the reason they've appealed it, because they are unhappy about the decision and I'm sure they will present why on the appeal date.

None of that changes the fact he had his hearing and won it.

I've literally just told you they can't appeal arbitration based upon being unhappy about a decision.

It's literally in massive purple writing, it couldn't be any clearer....

I'm not repeating, he's not won over and over, your failure to grasp it is contingent on the appeal is beyond lost on me, this whole saga wouldn't even be up for debate if it wasn't, it'd be over.

[IronDanHamza]

I've literally just told you they can't appeal arbitration based upon being unhappy about a decision.

It's literally in massive purple writing, it couldn't be any clearer....

I'm not repeating, he's not won over and over, your failure to grasp it is contingent on the appeal is beyond lost on me, this whole saga wouldn't even be up for debate if it wasn't, it'd be over.

Right yes unhappy with the decision for valid reasons, didn't think I'd need to specify but you do seem slow on this.

I also can't see that excerpt on the UKAD website can you cite the source please.

Like I said I can't explain it any more clearer that he has had a hearing and he won that hearing.

It's been appealed so it's still on going, does not change the fact he won his hearing on that day.

[Boro]

Right yes unhappy with the decision for valid reasons, didn't think I'd need to specify but you do seem slow on this.

I also can't see that excerpt on the UKAD website can you cite the source please.

Like I said I can't explain it any more clearer that he has had a hearing and he won that hearing.

It's been appealed so it's still on going, does not change the fact he won his hearing on that day.

You don't need to specify anything you simpleton, Arbitration law doesn't change because the hearings are happening in boxing, The LAW is the LAW.

It's literally governmentally mandated for UKAD that they have an option for fighters to independent tribunals aka NADP/CAS otherwise UKAD wouldn't even have involvement from them.

You don't need to find anything on UKADs site you can pretty much go on to any government site and look up the multitudes of regulations on UKAD and NADP and the plethora of regulation that govern their processes like Justice.gov.uk or Gov.uk

But apparently only what's on UKAD is applicable to them in your mind, heavens above .

[IronDanHamza]

You don't need to specify anything you simpleton, Arbitration law doesn't change because the hearings are happening in boxing, The LAW is the LAW.

It's literally governmentally mandated for UKAD that they have an option for fighters to independent tribunals aka NADP/CAS otherwise UKAD wouldn't even have involvement from them.

You don't need to find anything on UKADs site you can pretty much go on to any government site and look up the multitudes of regulations on UKAD and NADP and the plethora of regulation that govern their processes like Justice.gov.uk or Gov.uk

But apparently only what's on UKAD is applicable to them in your mind, heavens above .

Oh so it's not on the UKAD website? Ok.

Clearly I do because you're not grasping it It's really here nor there.

Conor Benn has had his hearing which he won, that's a fact.

Its been appealed and the outcome of that appeal will be happening this month.

Straight forward stuff.

[Boro]

Oh so it's not on the UKAD website? Ok.

Clearly I do because you're not grasping it It's really here nor there.

Conor Benn has had his hearing which he won, that's a fact.

Its been appealed and the outcome of that appeal will be happening this month.

Straight forward stuff.

The laws and bylaws that literally govern UKAD and NADP particularly the NADP are underpinned by the Arbitration act 1996 you dummy, it's literally the crux of the conversation you imbecile.

And as I've already said multiple times his ability to continue his career effectively in this country is entirely dependant on the outcome of the the appeal, what are you even trying to argue, I didn't say it wasn't over this month so get your head out of your arse...

I don't know how you have the nerve/audacity to claim i'm failing to grasp anything,

I've literally said innumerable times if the appeal gets rejected there isn't anything more UKAD can do and NADP are there solely as Arbitrators/tribunal by government mandate/redtaping...

Your failing to grasp these FACTS and attempting to gaslight me doesn't make you right, it just makes you petulant like I said previously you have a need to be right like a woman.