Comments Thread For: Conor Benn: I Decapitated Vargas, Van Heerden Better Than Boots and Vergil Ortiz - There's Your Measuring Stick!

[Boro]

Right, so at this point I don’t think you can read.

Do you have an example of a hearing that was held where the NADP wasn’t involved?

Yes, i'm now assuming you can't read at this point.

When they explicitly say on their site they (UKAD) make decisions and the NADP only become involved if they decide to appeal/contenset said decision involving ADVRs.

Even in your own examples of Tete and Glowacki, it's months later after denial of said taking of substances NADP is involved.

"Glowacki responded on 12 June 2023, denying the ADRVs and asserting that he had not taken any Prohibited Substance."

"Mr Glowacki’s case was heard by the independent National-Anti-Doping Panel (NADP) on 31 October 2023. The NADP issued a decision on 21 November 2023 which imposed a period of Ineligibility of four years."

You surely have to realise there is plenty of athletes who just willingly accept their ban right, across a multitude of sports right!? hence the NADP not only never being involved, they're actually completely unnecessary.

Quite frankly they're only there to adjudicate for an athlete who feels hard done or a cheater who is exhausting every last avenue and wasting taxpayers money to do so...

[Mr WorldWide]

You sound as delusional as the Brits I mentioned. Thanks for proving my point.

You have a sense of humour. Good man.

[IronDanHamza]

Yes, i'm now assuming you can't read at this point.

When they explicitly say on their site they (UKAD) make decisions and the NADP only become involved if they decide to appeal/contenset said decision involving ADVRs.

Even in your own examples of Tete and Glowacki, it's months later after denial of said taking of substances NADP is involved.

"Glowacki responded on 12 June 2023, denying the ADRVs and asserting that he had not taken any Prohibited Substance."

"Mr Glowacki’s case was heard by the independent National-Anti-Doping Panel (NADP) on 31 October 2023. The NADP issued a decision on 21 November 2023 which imposed a period of Ineligibility of four years."

You surely have to realise there is plenty of athletes who just willingly accept their ban right, across a multitude of sports right!? hence the NADP not only never being involved, they're actually completely unnecessary.

Quite frankly they're only there to adjudicate for an athlete who feels hard done or a cheater who is exhausting every last avenue and wasting taxpayers money to do so...

Right, exactly so if there’s a hearing planned and someone claims innocent then the hearings are carried out by the NADP. I.e What Conor Benn did.

I can’t understand where you’re lost here.

[Boro]

Right, exactly so if there’s a hearing planned and someone claims innocent then the hearings are carried out by the NADP. I.e What Conor Benn did.

I can’t understand where you’re lost here.

You're the one lost here, you're under some illusion that NADP are some kind of be all and end all of situations relating to drugs, they're not...

Like i've said numerous times now they're just adjudicators/arbitrators nothing more nothing less, I don't know why you're assuming they're so important.

They're literally a consequence of a fighter crying for their day in court as it were, nothing more.

They're effectively a second opinion that can be overturned and appealed by UKAD and others.

Assuming of course you want to go through a drawn out process with the slow ass government...

Most fighters are going to try and go through the "NADP" because they want to feign innocence doesn't mean anything either...

Don't know why you're stuck on Benns outcome from it, we're still waiting the outcome of UKADs appeal of that NADP decision so it's irrelevant at this point anyway.

[IronDanHamza]

You're the one lost here, you're under some illusion that NADP are some kind of be all and end all of situations relating to drugs, they're not...

Like i've said numerous times now they're just adjudicators/arbitrators nothing more nothing less, I don't know why you're assuming they're so important.

They're literally a consequence of a fighter crying for their day in court as it were, nothing more.

They're effectively a second opinion that can be overturned and appealed by UKAD and others.

Assuming of course you want to go through a drawn out process with the slow ass government...

Most fighters are going to try and go through the "NADP" because they want to feign innocence doesn't mean anything either...

Don't know why you're stuck on Benns outcome from it, we're still waiting the outcome of UKADs appeal of that NADP decision so it's irrelevant at this point anyway.

Right, so in the case of a fighter claiming innocence, thus a hearing is undergone, it is carried out by the NADP.

You don’t know why I’m stuck out on the outcome of the hearing? Er yeah, because that’s the entire point. He was requested to have a hearing, he had the hearing, and won the hearing.

[Boro]

Right, so in the case of a fighter claiming innocence, thus a hearing is undergone, it is carried out by the NADP.

You don’t know why I’m stuck out on the outcome of the hearing? Er yeah, because that’s the entire point. He was requested to have a hearing, he had the hearing, and won the hearing.

No it's not always undertaken by NADP. even your own quote disproves this "it is "likely" that the hearing will be held before the NADP" hence why I said read your own quote and look for the imperative word...

And he is now waiting an outcome of an appeal therefore still undergoing the process and try as he might avoid complying with UKADs processes...

Why is only one part of said process relevant to you, it's pathetic truth be known, you're clearly a Benn D rider.

[Ascended]

He’s just looking to cash out IMO. He’s a domestic level fighter at best.

the original can you tell me his name? and why you think I am him?,

can think what you want you have no proof just like you have no proof of louis beating Deontay, the most skilled people he fought at his best were Primo/max both/Baer, all novices compared to the average amateur in 70s-80s

[IronDanHamza]

No it's not always undertaken by NADP. even your own quote disproves this "it is "likely" that the hearing will be held before the NADP" hence why I said read your own quote and look for the imperative word...

And he is now waiting an outcome of an appeal therefore still undergoing the process and try as he might avoid complying with UKADs processes...

Why is only one part of said process relevant to you, it's pathetic truth be known, you're clearly a Benn D rider.

Yes it says likely because it’s likely the fighter is going to claim innocence.

If you can’t understand that these hearings are held by the NADP then I don’t know how I can make it easier for you to understand. If it goes go to trial it’s held by the NADP.

Right yeah, an appeal, from the HEARING, that was held by UKAD That he won.

That is the literal opposite of complying with their process.

[Boro]

Yes it says likely because it’s likely the fighter is going to claim innocence.

If you can’t understand that these hearings are held by the NADP then I don’t know how I can make it easier for you to understand. If it goes go to trial it’s held by the NADP.

Right yeah, an appeal, from the HEARING, that was held by UKAD That he won.

That is the literal opposite of complying with their process.

He didn't win anything relating to UKAD, there is literally a post at the top of this site mentioning his ongoing shít with UKAD stop being ignorant to this FACT...

[IronDanHamza]

He didn't win anything relating to UKAD, there is literally a post at the top of this site mentioning his ongoing shít with UKAD stop being ignorant to this FACT...

Erm, yes, he LITERALLY did. You don’t understand how the due process works and think because the NADP made the decision it wasn’t a UKAD hearing when it was literally a UKAD hearing.

It’s on going because they APPEALED it. The appealed the decision of the hearing. The appeal date is this month. Once that’s done with, if the appeals rejected, there is no more that can happen. Because, the hearing has already happened.

It’s the equivalent to saying Amir Khan didn’t go through the process relating to UKAD, or Glowacki, or Tete, or ANYONE who’s ever had a hearing with them and won/lost because the NADP gave the verdict which is literally the process of the hearing