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  • #61
    Originally posted by W1LL View Post
    Deontay Wilder proudly represents Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Tyson Fury is a Northern English badass. Anthony Joshua is a London roadman. These fights shouldn't be happening on the other side of the world, in front of a few hundred people in the desert.
    Plenty of the big fights went to Vegas, through recent history. In the desert, smaller crowds, neither fighter from that area

    Why?
    Last edited by Toffee; 01-20-2024, 10:23 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

      I agree with some of your comments but others I find it’s some guy with a chitload of money , sitting in his thrown , dictating things
      Thing is hes making more sh^t that fans wanna see than the boxing businessmen who've been in the sport for decades. And making less bs fights that fans don't wanna see. So I can't be mad about it as a fan.

      To me the big problem with this & Saudis overall move into sports is everyone understands there is some world PR movement in play here with this sports washing. And I think thats something that could bite them in the ass at some point.

      Or there could be a problem in the future if they legit takeover boxing & we have the trouble a monopoly could bring to boxing. Ultimately I think boxing should be a monopoly, but a monopoly in the hands of the wrong person or people could be massively fooked up like you could suggest things are in the UFC with them welding too much power over the fighters & stealing value from them.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

        Thing is hes making more sh^t that fans wanna see than the boxing businessmen who've been in the sport for decades. And making less bs fights that fans don't wanna see. So I can't be mad about it as a fan.

        To me the big problem with this & Saudis overall move into sports is everyone understands there is some world PR movement in play here with this sports washing. And I think thats something that could bite them in the ass at some point.

        Or there could be a problem in the future if they legit takeover boxing & we have the trouble a monopoly could bring to boxing. Ultimately I think boxing should be a monopoly, but a monopoly in the hands of the wrong person or people could be massively fooked up like you could suggest things are in the UFC with them welding too much power over the fighters & stealing value from them.
        Well , there you go
        That is my point of his excellency flexing his power
        He’s playing nice now but let’s see when his hands are wrapped around the sport with a strong hold
        The sportwashing is a whole other discussion

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        • #64
          Originally posted by W1LL View Post
          Deontay Wilder proudly represents Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Tyson Fury is a Northern English badass. Anthony Joshua is a London roadman. These fights shouldn't be happening on the other side of the world, in front of a few hundred people in the desert.
          People normally watch the fights on tv anyway

          Folks in Alabama wouldn't be traveling to the UK

          As a fan, I just want the fights to happen

          I'll be in Saudi if need be

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          • #65
            Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

            So , according to you the big boxing fan you are , it’s ok to give a 0-1 fighter an opportunity to fight for the unified heavyweight championship ?
            I don’t give two fughs where the fight is being held , for all I care it could be in your backyard
            Try working on your reading skills genius
            Yes, it's ok with me

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post

              Yes, it's ok with me
              That’s your opinion and I can respect that
              I. don’t agree with that
              I think he should be like all other boxers who go through the grind and dedication to get to that point
              He’s only there cause some rich guy put him there

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              • #67
                Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                That’s your opinion and I can respect that
                I. don’t agree with that
                I think he should be like all other boxers who go through the grind and dedication to get to that point
                He’s only there cause some rich guy put him there
                As they all are. The matchmakers decide who fights based on value. Ngannou got the Fury fight based on his commercial value. He got the Joshua fight based on his commercial value after performing well against Fury.

                If he beats Joshua he'll have the value and credibility needed. He won't need to go and fight nobodies to build himself up.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Toffee View Post

                  As they all are. The matchmakers decide who fights based on value. Ngannou got the Fury fight based on his commercial value. He got the Joshua fight based on his commercial value after performing well against Fury.

                  If he beats Joshua he'll have the value and credibility needed. He won't need to go and fight nobodies to build himself up.
                  He never went through the gears to get there
                  This is just the beginning of chit that your excellency is gonna pull
                  And the more power or strangle hold he gets and we’ll be left with a half azz sport
                  Everyone blasts Jake Paul for being this and that but at least he’s fighting guys his own level
                  If Paul was given the same opportunity you all would be crashing this fughin site
                  What’s the difference ? Why chew out Paul and not the mma guy ?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                    He never went through the gears to get there
                    This is just the beginning of chit that your excellency is gonna pull
                    And the more power or strangle hold he gets and we’ll be left with a half azz sport
                    Everyone blasts Jake Paul for being this and that but at least he’s fighting guys his own level
                    If Paul was given the same opportunity you all would be crashing this fughin site
                    What’s the difference ? Why chew out Paul and not the mma guy ?
                    I don't chew out Paul. Boxing is about generating a following. Right from the guys selling their own tickets up to the guys generating views, likes, followers and PPV sales. You do that both in the ring and out. Paul does that brilliantly.

                    But Paul is the polar opposite of Ngannou.

                    Ngannou is using his commercial value to get big fights with top level fighters.

                    Paul is using his commercial value to make low level fights and sell them to YouTube fans. I'd be impressed with Paul if he secured a fight with a high level boxer and was good enough to perform.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                      What’s the difference ? Why chew out Paul and not the mma guy ?
                      Plenty of ppl have been dogging Jake & Francis.

                      Personally I don't think the status quo pre-Jake & Francis was all that great & I think they both have had more positive impact with casual fans than anything boxing has done in a long time.

                      You can criticize anything in boxing as we all should know by now, but I'd argue Turki, Jake & Francis are all net positives for the sport while mainstays of boxing like belt groups, sketchy commissions & Ped testing inconsistencies, among other problems that have been around forever, are a net negative.

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